Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Nov 2007 22:11 UTC
Amiga & AROS A new AROS status update has been published. The biggest news: "Michal Schulz has made the miracle, and a whole new chapter in AROS history begins. Starting from today, you can grab the 64 bit native flavour of AROS from our website. This new version is obviously more advanced than the usual one, and has limited memory protection and GRUB loading modules. A initial wall for 4 GB of RAM will be removed as soon as proper MMU handling is done. In order to run the 64 bit native version of AROS a 64-bit x86 processor like AMD Athlon 64s or latest Intel Core2s is needed."
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RE[3]: Travesty
by paolone on Fri 30th Nov 2007 13:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Travesty"
paolone
Member since:
2007-09-24

As I have already said, if there's something you miss in AROS, well, you won't get it by whining, but by coding: take what you need in order to add it, and feel free to resolve the issue by yourself.

Modern OSes have features AROS doesn't have, some for lack of time/developers, others by design. For istance, if you are able to add virtual memory and memory protection without breaking compatibility with available code, just do it. AROS is based on the AmigaOS design, and AmigaOS didn't have PM and VM, that's all. If you can't live without them, AROS is not for you.

Peace, I will continue using it without them, as no doctor said I should not.

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RE[4]: Travesty
by jal_ on Fri 30th Nov 2007 19:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Travesty"
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2006-11-02

As I have already said, if there's something you miss in AROS, well, you won't get it by whining, but by coding: take what you need in order to add it, and feel free to resolve the issue by yourself.

Well, not everyone can code, or has the time to code. I'm not the best coder around, and I certainly do not have the time to code. That should not have to stop me from commenting on the issue though.

Modern OSes have features AROS doesn't have, some for lack of time/developers, others by design. For istance, if you are able to add virtual memory and memory protection without breaking compatibility with available code, just do it. AROS is based on the AmigaOS design, and AmigaOS didn't have PM and VM, that's all.

Exactly my point. AROS is meant to be compatible with Amiga apps. Amiga apps certainly do not need x64. And why the obsession with compatability, if the programs cannot run anyway (unless there's a hidden 68K emulator in x64 somewhere I don't know about). It would've been better to add UAE to AROS, and continue developing modern ways of doing things. A bit like what MS did with Win 3.11 -> Win32.

If you can't live without them, AROS is not for you.

AROS is not for me per se, but I do like alternative OSes. It's just a shame (imho, of course), that so much creativity goes to waste on recreating a 80s OS.


JAL

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You need to get out more
by damocles on Sat 1st Dec 2007 09:17 in reply to "RE[4]: Travesty"
damocles Member since:
2007-11-26

JAL,

If you haven't noticed, 32 bit, single core CPUs are going the way of the tarpit. 64 bit multi core CPUs are the norm on today's modern desktop and laptops. By leaving AROS32 in it's current direction, AROS64 allows the Devs to break current code to allow modern OS features that would leave many AROS32 devs and users screaming for blood. With AROS64, parallel developement can now coexist peacefully until 64 bit matures and then can be back ported to AROS32 if the Devs agree to do so.

Now that AROS64 is out in the wild, one can hope a kind and experienced Dev will be assigned to the ACPI bounty that will lead to AROS64 SMP. I know Dr. Schulz is wanting to begin work on the next generation AROS64 kernel which will be another step towards full memory Protection. Yes, AROS is missing features, but with limited number of Devs they are doing something rather then just bitching. Evolve or die.

Dammy

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