Linked by David Adams on Tue 4th Dec 2007 19:27 UTC, submitted by MissinBeOS
Hardware, Embedded Systems From the WSJ: "The dream of cheap computers in the hands of millions of poor children is becoming a reality, though not exactly as its proponents imagined. For-profit competitors snatched the idea and have run with it."
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GhePeU
Member since:
2005-07-06

1) bitfrost activation
2) "narrow prism of their experience." You have clearly no idea of the conditions in the OLPC target countries and you dare speak of "narrow prism"... mote and beam, anyone?
3) again, the XO is radically different from the standard notebooks. There's a reason if they worked for three years to design it.
4) crap crap and again misinformed crap: you know nothing, you imagine things and then you speculate on your fantasies...

It's funny how people who don't know anything feel that they can pontificate freely on the net. Ten minutes of searching with google or reading the olpc website could've saved you from writing all that crap...

Most of all: do you really think that all the people involved with the OLPC project are stupid? Didn't you figure, just for a moment, that "maybe" they're not a group of idiots and that "maybe" they considered what they were going to start? Do you really think that you're so incredibly smart that you're the first one who figured out the potential problems of the project?

Edited 2007-12-04 22:42

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

1) bitfrost activation


Rrrrrright, and activation schemes can't be cracked, right?

You have clearly no idea of the conditions in the OLPC target countries and you dare speak of "narrow prism"... mote and beam, anyone?


Ah, so you're an adherent of the "you can't possibly know that suicide is bad unless you try it, firsthand" school of thought. Get over yourself. I don't have to visit OLPC-targeted nations to understand that they have serious problems which go way, way beyond anything that the OLPC could possibly do. Let's take Nigeria, as an example.

Check out https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.....

60% of the population of Nigeria is below the poverty level. Rates of major infectious diseases are "very high". Nearly 1 in 10 babies dies at birth. Their health care system is crumbling. Attendance in public schools averages 29% of the eligible population. Where do you suppose the remaining 71% of children are? Working? Farming? Military? Hanging out, smoking weed? Oh, rrrrrright. They're probably sitting around, waiting for their shiny OLPC laptops to be delivered. LMFAO!

Also, check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria

"Haphazard industrial planning, increased urbanization, poverty and lack of competence of the municipal government are seen as the major reasons for high levels of waste pollution in major Nigerian cities. Some of the 'solutions' have been disastrous to the environment, resulting in untreated waste being dumped in places where it can pollute waterways and groundwater."

I didn't invent these issues. They exist. Right now. In OLPC countries. Raw sewage. Poor drinking water. High rate of illiteracy. Poverty. Corruption (get any Nigerian emails lately?).

3) again, the XO is radically different from the standard notebooks. There's a reason if they worked for three years to design it.


I've seen the specs, and I don't agree. I've had notebooks which are more hardened than the XO fail within 5 years. You can stick your head in the sand and poo-poo that possibility, but you're fundamentally wrong.

4) crap crap and again misinformed crap: you know nothing, you imagine things and then you speculate on your fantasies...


I'd be happy to discuss any rebuttal that you have, as soon as you provide one. Labeling a reasonable proposal "misinformed crap" and then failing to explain why is just typical of the kind of hit-and-run ideological skirmishing around here.

Most of all: do you really think that all the people involved with the OLPC project are stupid? Didn't you figure, just for a moment, that "maybe" they're not a group of idiots and that "maybe" they considered what they were going to start?


They're not stupid, simply misguided. Big difference.

Do you really think that you're so incredibly smart that you're the first one who figured out the potential problems of the project?


No, I'm simply trying to have a reasonable discussion, and you're getting all emotional.

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ralph Member since:
2005-07-10

Rrrrrright, and activation schemes can't be cracked, right?
Who said they couldn't? Oh, wait that's not the issue here. Your condescending claim that nobody thought about people selling or exchanging the XO is.
How about informin yourself the next time around before commenting?

Ah, so you're an adherent of the "you can't possibly know that suicide is bad unless you try it, firsthand" school of thought.
Nope. He's clearly an adherent to the "you should inform yourself before posting on an issue" school of thought. Nobody thinks or claims that the XO will solve all the problems in the world and everyone is aware that there are a lot of problems that can't be solved with it. However, people argue that it can help a lot of people in a several ways, for example by making better education accessible to more people.

Now, if as you claim you are really interested in a discussion, you should address these points, not build some strawman argument in order to be better able to tear it down. Yes, people who starve won't be helped by the XO. Nobody claimed they would.

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