Linked by David Adams on Tue 4th Dec 2007 19:39 UTC, submitted by michuk
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "It may be a brave opinion but I predict that Ubuntu Linux and Windows Vista are going to be the two operating systems that will take over the largest chunk of the desktop OS market during the next couple of years. This comparison is based on my experience with both systems during the last couple of weeks on two different computers."
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RE[4]: I have to disagree.
by archiesteel on Thu 6th Dec 2007 05:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: I have to disagree."
archiesteel
Member since:
2005-07-02

The *only* genres where PC gaming still survives is First-Person Shooters and Real-Time Strategy - and even then, there are fewer PC exclusives in these genres as time goes by. Just look at charts for the console and PC versions of Call of Duty 4 - sales are much higher for the former than the latter. Also, don't forget that you can now download content for consoles as well, so don't expect much more features for the PC version of COD4.

Now, look at all the hot exclusives that are available on consoles but don't have PC ports (or have PC ports that come out waaaay after console versions). And we're not just talking Mario or Pokemon, here - the Xbox360 has attracted *huge* amounts of hardcore gamers with its excellent game catalog.

Consoles are for younger people or more casual gamers who simply can move on to the next game more frequently, where as PC users can have a game's life extended for years through customization.


The sentence is misleading: while there are more kids playing on consoles, there is also a very large proportion of hardcore gamers. The PC stalwarts you mention are a relatively small number when compared to the total number of gamers out there.

And let us not forget that little program called Steam...which is PC only.


Thank God for that. Steam is the worst concept ever designed by a game publisher. Meanwhile, Half-Life 2 was released on consoles and make a killing.

I seriously think your perception of the game industry is tainted by your own personal bias. Take it from an insider who pores over sales charts and talks with game publishers on a regular basis: the PC gaming industry has been dwarfed by the console industry for *years* now, and the trend isn't likely to change anytime soon.

That's not to say that there still aren't any good or successful PC games (I can't believe you failed to mention World of Warcraft), only that these are few and far between when you compare numbers with consoles - and that it's very possible for a real hardcore gamer to have, say, Linux or Mac OSX on their PC and get their gaming fix on their Xbox360 or PS3 (well, as soon as the latter's catalog grow a little...)

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RE[5]: I have to disagree.
by Alleister on Thu 6th Dec 2007 11:40 in reply to "RE[4]: I have to disagree."
Alleister Member since:
2006-05-29

Yes, there are plenty of First Person Shooters on Consoles now, but they just aren't fun, not even a little. You have the choice of playing them with a Gamepad, which means, either every enemy in the game will stand around like a drunk monkey and fails to hit you from 5 meters away or you have autoaiming and watch the game play itself or you could get an Wii, where the First Person Shooters look like Quake 1 Mods and you still require lot of autoaiming, which feels like watching someone else playing. Not to forget that with a joypad you walk around like a drunk sailor on vacation.

I don't like Beat Em Ups except for Street Fighter 2 and i don't like Dance Dance Revolution, Guitar Hero and all those crappy typical console games.
Until i can play console games with Mouse and Keyboard i'm not tempted.

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RE[6]: I have to disagree.
by archiesteel on Thu 6th Dec 2007 18:12 in reply to "RE[5]: I have to disagree."
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

Poppycock. Playing First-Person Shooters on consoles is just a matter of getting used to the different control scheme. Halo *was* fun. The various Call of Duty *were* fun.

I see there's quite a few mouse-and-keyboard snobs here. Cool, that's your right. Still, that doesn't change the central argument: "hardcore" gaming doesn't requite a Windows PC.

I don't like Beat Em Ups except for Street Fighter 2 and i don't like Dance Dance Revolution, Guitar Hero and all those crappy typical console games.


Yeah, because those are the only types of games you have on consoles. *rolls eyes*

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