Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Dec 2007 16:27 UTC
Mac OS X Since my Cube could not run Leopard, and I did not have any other Macs, I was unable to delve into Leopard right away. Apple NL was kind enough to fix this problem for us, by generously loaning me a brand new MacBook with Leopard installed so I could review it for OSNews. Read on for the findings.
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What I expected
by hraq on Thu 6th Dec 2007 18:16 UTC
hraq
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2005-07-06

I expected a working cloning solution for osx partition, that would allow me to clone the whole disk in preparation to transfer it to another HDD. OSX imaging tool that creates .dmg failed till 10.4.x to do that even though they designed it to do that function.

I can currently successfully clone any windows and any linux(ext3) with Acronis TrueImage products without wasting the size on destination, because this tool can clone also osx but on sector by sector method which will at the end fill up 160GB for a 160 GB HDD occupied with 20 GB worth of data.

Other unix tools are not safe to clone osx too and they have issues with permissions and other things. Even Acronis have issues with osx, due to osx nature of nagging about size differences and other non-BIOS EFI based problems.

So, Apple should help administrators to clone mac partitions without issue to let me step into this OSX once and for all.

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RE: What I expected
by macUser on Thu 6th Dec 2007 18:44 in reply to "What I expected"
macUser Member since:
2006-12-15

So, Apple should help administrators to clone mac partitions without issue to let me step into this OSX once and for all.


?

I've used Apple's disk utility to create "clones" since 10.3 with no trouble. Teamed up with netrestore servers, you can push out images quite easily over a network...

If you make a compressed image it only takes up the space of the data...

Take a look at CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner) for a nice GUI tool to automate the process....

http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

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RE: What I expected
by meianoite on Thu 6th Dec 2007 18:48 in reply to "What I expected"
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2006-04-05

I expected a working cloning solution for osx partition, that would allow me to clone the whole disk in preparation to transfer it to another HDD. OSX imaging tool that creates .dmg failed till 10.4.x to do that even though they designed it to do that function.


Perhaps we're talking about two different things, but how come Disk Utility fails for you? You're using the "Restore" option to (erm) restore the image, aren't you? And you're building the images with the sparse option turned on, right (either that or the compress option, but on my pretty old G3 it takes forever to finish a compressed copy)?

What about using ditto, wouldn't it work for you (since regular Unix tools indeed fail to keep forks intact)?

And IIRC the Unix tools on Leopard were updated to handle those cases, too, but I'm just too busy to look it up and see if I'm not mistaken (just gave myself a 5-min break, else I'd BSOD ;) )


Edit: not that you'll see anything glaringly wrong after the edit, but boy does it show I'm tired.

Edited 2007-12-06 18:50

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RE: What I expected
by Adurbe on Thu 6th Dec 2007 19:35 in reply to "What I expected"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

why are you angry at apple for not providing this functionality when it is 3rd party on your other platforms?

Should your anger not be directed at Acronis for not supporting HFS+?

p.s. I have always used CCC myself and it has been flawless

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RE[2]: What I expected
by hraq on Thu 6th Dec 2007 20:35 in reply to "RE: What I expected"
hraq Member since:
2005-07-06

"Should your anger not be directed at Acronis for not supporting HFS+?"

I am not angry at all; but I wish they fix things they claim to work as I also wish from MS to make their backup utility work fine (for opened files and hidden important files).

I wish not to see any software features if it would end up unstable or buggy for me.

And for Acronis I cannot push them to do it, that's their capability and which led me to abandon Norton Ghost, which doesn't support but windows. If another X company comes and creates a solution for all of these platforms then I will abandon Acronis, and direct my money for X.

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