Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Dec 2007 16:27 UTC
Mac OS X Since my Cube could not run Leopard, and I did not have any other Macs, I was unable to delve into Leopard right away. Apple NL was kind enough to fix this problem for us, by generously loaning me a brand new MacBook with Leopard installed so I could review it for OSNews. Read on for the findings.
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RE: Stationary
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 6th Dec 2007 19:17 UTC in reply to "Stationary"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

When people tell me HTML email is evil, I always press them to tell me why.


Because html email does not solve a problem. Like I said, it might be nice for a birthday invitation or something (but my personal value system dictates that birthday invitations are sent via paper mail or extended personally), but for day-to-day use of email, which constitutes 99% of email usage, it is utterly, utterly pointless and does not add anything to the overall functioning of email.

This is apart from technical reasons like different rendering engines rendering html mail different from one another (or the evil thing where html emails do not render correctly when you do not have the proper width set, or add a horizontal scrollbar), or the fact that html mails take longer to load, require extra clicks like telling it to download images. On top of that, we have the obvious security issues which rear their ugly head on not only Windows, but also OS X.

Edited 2007-12-06 19:20 UTC

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RE[2]: Stationary
by Adam S on Thu 6th Dec 2007 19:24 in reply to "RE: Stationary"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

Know what else doesn't solve a problem? CSS. HTML outputs plain old Times New Roman in most browsers, and that would be perfectly readable.

Come to think of it, colored clothes don't solve a problem - all clothes in white or tan - whatever cottom is - would be just fine.

Let's get rid of spices, the only problem solved by food is nutrition, and we don't need it to taste good to meet our caloric and nutritional requirements.


Obviously, the point here is that the world is not black and white. HTML email does solve problems for most people: inline images are useful and quicker, formatted text grabs attention and higlights important text, etc.

In fact, if you ever use bold tags in your articles, you ought to understand why some people believe that the ability to use HTML in email is worthwhile.

So if my problem is that I want to present an image to someone inline with instructional text, what is the solution? Suck it up and attach a rich text document at 200K or just go HTML email and do it in 40K?

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RE[3]: Stationary
by StephenBeDoper on Fri 7th Dec 2007 13:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Stationary"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Know what else doesn't solve a problem? CSS. HTML outputs plain old Times New Roman in most browsers, and that would be perfectly readable.

Come to think of it, colored clothes don't solve a problem - all clothes in white or tan - whatever cottom is - would be just fine.

Let's get rid of spices, the only problem solved by food is nutrition, and we don't need it to taste good to meet our caloric and nutritional requirements.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

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RE[2]: Stationary
by Alex Forster on Thu 6th Dec 2007 20:23 in reply to "RE: Stationary"
Alex Forster Member since:
2005-08-12

By that doctrine, the web should also be plaintext.

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RE[2]: Stationary
by plutoprime on Thu 6th Dec 2007 20:35 in reply to "RE: Stationary"
plutoprime Member since:
2007-11-03

It amazes me how a fellow self-proclaimed UI Analyst can pass such a harsh and definite judgment on HTML email.

Creatures who are color blind would most likely never miss color. In fact it's most likely impossible for them to comprehend color.

HTML email can do precisely what colors and smells do for us in real life. Not to mention extra features such as embedding links etc. I don't know about you Thom but I would rather live in a world with Color than without one.

P.S. When I say color in the real world I'm not talking about colored text in html. I'm talking about the extra sensory elements that you can add to the entire experience.

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RE[3]: Stationary
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 6th Dec 2007 20:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Stationary"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It amazes me how a fellow self-proclaimed UI Analyst can pass such a harsh and definite judgment on HTML email.


Like I said, there are indeed specific use cases where it makes sense. However, most emails sent today (if you disregard spam) are short emails along the lines of "Jim, did you finish that report?" or "Jack, did you contact that client?" or "Wanna go see a movie tonight?" - I'd wager a bet to say that 90-95% of email consist of those types of emails (wild guess, no facts to back it up). What, exactly, can html email do for this common use of emailing?

Exactly, nothing. And hence, for 90-95%, it serves absolutely no purpose AT ALL, and seeing people regularly abuse the technology out of ignorance (I don't blame them! I do a lot of ignorant things too in other fields!), it is simply better to restrict the ability to put flashy colours and such in emails.

Browse MySpace or the Dutch equiv. Hyves.nl for a while, and you'll understand.

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RE[3]: Stationary
by cycoj on Thu 6th Dec 2007 23:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Stationary"
cycoj Member since:
2007-11-04


HTML email can do precisely what colors and smells do for us in real life. Not to mention extra features such as embedding links etc. I don't know about you Thom but I would rather live in a world with Color than without one.


So you're one of those people who use pink letter paper and spray it with perfume are you? ;)

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RE[3]: Stationary
by Oliver on Fri 7th Dec 2007 00:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Stationary"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

Yeah like LSD ;)

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