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RE[4]: Stationary
by aitvo on Thu 6th Dec 2007 22:33 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Stationary"
aitvo
Member since:
2006-09-03

"You choose to look at this website, you don't choose whether or not an html email is downloaded, you don't choose whether or not HTML messages are posted to an USENET server."

You chose to live where you have a metered internet connection, deal with it.

I prefer HTML mail because I can format it any way that I want. I'm not going to stop because someone is using a 1980s grade internet connection. It's 2007.

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RE[5]: Stationary
by nevali on Thu 6th Dec 2007 22:53 in reply to "RE[4]: Stationary"
nevali Member since:
2006-10-12

I prefer HTML mail because I can format it any way that I want.


And for whose benefit is that, exactly?

You write e-mail for the recipient, not the sender. How do you know that the recipient agrees with your choices of colours/fonts/sizes? How do you know that your choices are sufficiently readable for them? More importantly, how do you know they want your choices imposed upon them?

That's right, you don't, you're just imposing your choices on those you communicate with, not because it benefits them, but because when you look through your “Sent mail” folder it's pretty—to you.

Yeah, I can see why that's such a concrete justification…

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RE[6]: Stationary
by aitvo on Thu 6th Dec 2007 23:18 in reply to "RE[5]: Stationary"
aitvo Member since:
2006-09-03

Tell me how you'd format a table of data and include pictures in a plain text email?

Thanks for the opinion, but when I send html based email it's not for glitter, it's to format a message so it is easy to read and understand.

Yes I am imposing a choice, and I wouldn't do it if it didn't benefit them. I don't send incredimail junk I send data that's useful, and I send it in HTML.

Oh, wait you are talking about hating mail because someone sends you mail that's pink and pretty.

That's no reason to discount the use of html in email. It's not like a few extra tags are that expensive.

Again, it's 2007 not 1988.

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RE[5]: Stationary
by kaiwai on Fri 7th Dec 2007 03:43 in reply to "RE[4]: Stationary"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

You chose to live where you have a metered internet connection, deal with it.


Actually, I don't *choose*, outside of the US of A, the rest of us have metered access. Just because you have bad manners to send crap to me in a format which I detest, doesn't make me elitist, it makes me a potential customer whom you might have pissed off or friend whom you'll never an email from again.

If I don't want emails in HTML, be courteous enough and don't ram it down my throat.

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RE[6]: Stationary
by aitvo on Fri 7th Dec 2007 04:09 in reply to "RE[5]: Stationary"
aitvo Member since:
2006-09-03

You do choose to live outside the USA. Yes, I do have bad manners. Yes I will send you HTML email if I choose. If that means that I piss you off, and you won't be my friend then yes that does make you an elitist.

Don't worry I'm not concerned that you wouldn't want to be my friend or customer. If you are that petty I wouldn't want you to be my friend, and I absolutely wouldn't want to do business with you anyway.

I default to plain text email like most, however if I choose to send HTML mail, don't cry over it, it's really not that bad.

What does it cost? $.001US?

Thanks.

Edited 2007-12-07 04:15

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RE[6]: Stationary
by Soulbender on Fri 7th Dec 2007 04:56 in reply to "RE[5]: Stationary"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Actually, I don't *choose*, outside of the US of A, the rest of us have metered access.


Stop confusing New Zealand with the world. Just because you have ISP's from the last millenium that likes to screw their users doesn't mean the rest of the world does. In most countries either there is no metered access or you have a choice between metered/unmetered.

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RE[6]: Stationary
by djst on Sat 8th Dec 2007 11:11 in reply to "RE[5]: Stationary"
djst Member since:
2005-08-07

Actually, I don't *choose*, outside of the US of A, the rest of us have metered access.

Say what?! I happen to live outside "the US of A," and I also happen to have broadband. Don't generalize things you clearly know little about.

Furthermore, if you worry so much about your traffic, what on earth are you doing on this site, or any other site for that matter? Please note the fancy borders around every comment, the logos, icons, differently sized text, colors, etc. They all cost a heck of a lot more on your Internet bill than your e-mail.

Please note that I'm not trying to be an ass or make you feel bad, I'm only trying to show you that your arguments against HTML e-mail are very weak and you're contradicting yourself by everything else you do on the Web aside from e-mailing.

Or maybe you're on of those people who turn off images, overrides every web page design with your own "no-style" stylesheet, and refuses to use any other browser than Links. But then again, why did you bother to add an avatar picture of yourself -- surely you realize that you're "ramming it down my throat?" ;)

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