Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Dec 2007 16:27 UTC, submitted by anonymous
General Development Six months ago, Linux vendor Red Hat acquired the closed source Exadel Studio Pro IDE and pledged to turn it into a fully open source Red Hat product. On Monday, Red Hat officially released JBoss Developer Studio, based on the Exadel product as a 100 percent open source IDE. The new Eclipse based IDE offering from Red Hat's JBoss division will provide a development environment that will work on both Windows and Linux for Java middleware solutions from JBoss.
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$99?
by explosiv0SX on Tue 11th Dec 2007 17:42 UTC
explosiv0SX
Member since:
2007-12-11

When will they learn? While certainly not expensive, I can't imagine that many prospective users will shell out $99 to download and kick the tires on this package. Most enterprise users can't just plunk down $99! You think they're going to go thru the IT purchasing process to try JBoss Studio!?

RH, you're letting your grip on the enterprise slowly but surely slip thru your fingers with this nonsense. Get your products into the hands of users! Your enterprise client-base will come through with the subscriptions.

Edited 2007-12-11 17:44

RE: $99?
by Kalessin on Tue 11th Dec 2007 18:01 in reply to "$99?"
Kalessin Member since:
2007-01-18

Well, it's quite typical for the commercial C++ IDE's to be over $1000. I'm not saying that it's necessarily worth shelling out $99 just to try out Red Hat's IDE, but as far as IDE's go, if there's a price tag attached to it, $99 is cheap.

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RE: $99?
by unoengborg on Tue 11th Dec 2007 18:18 in reply to "$99?"
unoengborg Member since:
2005-07-06

In many enterprises there are a set of approved software, and you don't download things that are not approved if you like your job. So going through the IT department would have been necessary even if it was free of charge. I wouldn't call $99 expensive. The process of getting it approved for use, probably costs more in many companies.

So, the $99 price is most likely a bigger problems to amateur users, that program for fun and don't make money from their software, than it is to enterprises.

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RE: $99?
by superman on Tue 11th Dec 2007 18:47 in reply to "$99?"
superman Member since:
2006-08-01

It's GPLv2, you can compile it. Like Centos compile RHEL.
Please do it for Fedora, Ubuntu, Centos, Debian...

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RE: $99?
by TechGeek on Tue 11th Dec 2007 19:28 in reply to "$99?"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

Quit being a leech on society. Red Hat went out and bought this closed source software and then released it under the GPL. How many companies do stuff like that. Then they only charge $99, which includes a copy of RHEL and a RHN subscription to keep the box up to date using Red Hat's repo's. And you are complaining about $99. This would cost thousands of dollars from Microsoft. Plus, in a matter of weeks, it will be added to all the other distros anyway, so quit whining. While free is nice, the free is really about freedom. Not being a cheapskate.

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RE[2]: $99?
by jakesdad on Tue 11th Dec 2007 20:54 in reply to "RE: $99?"
jakesdad Member since:
2005-12-28

Don't inhibit his freedom... He's free to be a cheapskate.
Freedom and all that.

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RE[2]: $99?
by elsewhere on Tue 11th Dec 2007 21:00 in reply to "RE: $99?"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Quit being a leech on society. Red Hat went out and bought this closed source software and then released it under the GPL.


Well, as long as you're going to use the word leech, you might want to ask the Eclipse developers their opinion of RH's choice of GPL licensing, which effectively locks them out of this wonderful gift RH is "giving" the community. As with the GPL and obtaining RH for free, the license permits it, but as you point out, there is a question of reciprocity and fairness, right? ;)

Edited 2007-12-11 21:07 UTC

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