Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 12th Dec 2007 05:56 UTC
Benchmarks A lot was said lately about the Vorbis/Theora vs h.264/AAC situation on the draft of the HTML5. As some of you know, video is my main hobby these days (I care not about operating systems anymore), so I have gain some experience on the field lately, and at the same time this has made me more demanding about video quality. Read on for a head to head test: OGG Theora/Vorbis vs MP4 h.264/AAC. Yup, with videos. And pictures.
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RE[2]: I don't get it
by Coxy on Wed 12th Dec 2007 09:36 UTC in reply to "RE: I don't get it"
Coxy
Member since:
2006-07-01

'thing is, they all know ogg would be acceptable for most users. just look at how much high def formats in audio and video stand vs divx and mp3 (to use known examples). i suspect that the non-technical consumer is tired of formats that give no no practical value vs the old ones. '

I think most users have no idea what formats are or care - nor should they have to. They just watch films, there not interested in OSS values, they just want to be able to view their films in what ever media player comes with their computers.

'all im saying is that for most users quality comes second to ease of use.'

What research have you done on the subject?. Ease of use for most people would probably be that it runs in Windows Media Player or iTunes and that they don't need to download or install anything else just to see the 'shaky party movie, taken using a low quality mobile phone or camera while drunk.'

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RE[3]: I don't get it
by hobgoblin on Wed 12th Dec 2007 09:49 in reply to "RE[2]: I don't get it"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

bingo, except here we are talking about a web format, and more and more people upload their small videos to pages like youtube for no other reason then to share it with friends and family via im, community sites or their blog/webjournal.

i see it first hand every day.

when the file is in the cloud, they dont care about windows media player or itunes, its in their browser it needs to work.

and right now, to get anything like this working there, every browser needs a plugin (unless your a IE user in windows or a safari user in osx, and you only browse pages that use a matching format).

thing is that the most repeated issue with ubuntu and similar is that one have to download some codec pack or other to get media going.

if ogg got a foothold on the web, then it may get the leverage needed to be used in larger numbers elsewhere.

at that point the codec argument on alternative os's, while not going away fully, becomes greatly diminished.

hell, one can even start to ship computers that use "alternative" cpu's. a arm laptop anyone? where the biggest drain on battery is the back light of the lcd?

yes, people dont care about oss. but they care about usability, and they care about cost. and right now oss has a advantage in the latter. but because of copyright and patents, not so on the former. if the former was to change, things could get highly interesting.

hell, many have moved their digital life into the clouds, or more specifically that google branded one. think about the impact if those low cost "gos" computers could "just work" with anything the web had to offer?

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