Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 12th Dec 2007 05:56 UTC
Benchmarks A lot was said lately about the Vorbis/Theora vs h.264/AAC situation on the draft of the HTML5. As some of you know, video is my main hobby these days (I care not about operating systems anymore), so I have gain some experience on the field lately, and at the same time this has made me more demanding about video quality. Read on for a head to head test: OGG Theora/Vorbis vs MP4 h.264/AAC. Yup, with videos. And pictures.
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Video Quality
by Dreams on Wed 12th Dec 2007 10:08 UTC
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People don't care about the quality. Look at Youtube, it's video quality is bad, but everybody uses it. They just want something that works. OGG/Theora is the best way to make sure it *works*, and that it can be supported on every operating system (including mobile phones) and every browser.

Besides, it isn't that bad, it can beat Youtube's video quality easily.

Edited 2007-12-12 10:08

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RE: Video Quality
by Eugenia on Wed 12th Dec 2007 10:11 in reply to "Video Quality"
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This is not always true. If you want to do video as videography, like myself and my buddies do, you go to places where quality is good. For example, look at my youtube page:
I only have TESTS there, it's like a bag of socks.

My MAIN videography site, for me and most of the Canon HV20 enthusiasts, is Vimeo which supports 1280x720p:

See the difference?

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RE[2]: Video Quality
by hobgoblin on Wed 12th Dec 2007 10:36 in reply to "RE: Video Quality"
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in the same way that any enthusiast will not settle with budget gear, big woop...

sad to say eugenia, but your coming of as just another mediaphile. as in, the same kind of people that rant and rave about flac, pcm or whatever being the lowest acceptable format for their media of choice.

or to bring in that sad old car, the people that will not settle for a 4-cylinder stationwagon, if they can get their hands on something with a big more "meat".

what we are talking about here is the common man format, the one that joe will use for his family video. the same joe that will film his newborn using a cheap camera or maybe even his phone. the joe that dont care that upping the megapixels on his compact camera isnt equal to upping the quality of the photos taken.

the term i guess im looking for is "good enough". and to me thats a term that the people you seem to personify right now, just dont grasp. it seems that unless its perfection, its no point in doing it at all...

Edited 2007-12-12 10:37

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RE[2]: Video Quality
by Beta on Wed 12th Dec 2007 10:43 in reply to "RE: Video Quality"
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You failed to see his point.

Some anal people are always going to pick the better format over the “right” format, so you and your buddies can go play in the h264 park over at and the rest of the planet who just wants to share videos of their dog falling over or the most recent happy slapping plot on sites like etc. (Not everyone can view YouTubes either, but again, that’s a format issue)

You want to share exceptionally bandwidth wasting video? Fine, just dont spoil the party for everyone who doesn’t.

PS, also nice to see the only reason you’re posting the article is because of replies on:
Nice to see OSNews being an unbiased source of information ;)

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RE[2]: Video Quality
by segedunum on Wed 12th Dec 2007 16:43 in reply to "RE: Video Quality"
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This is not always true. If you want to do video as videography, like myself and my buddies do, you go to places where quality is good.

Well, whatever. People still use MP3, which has been inferior sound-wise to the original CD for some time, but by God, people still use it and refuse to use anything else.

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RE[2]: Video Quality
by Finalzone on Wed 12th Dec 2007 20:07 in reply to "RE: Video Quality"
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Think worldwide including Africa, Central and South America and several part of Asia. Not many people have the luxury to get high quality movies. With the project like OLPC taking effects, using another proprietary format won't be a viable option.
AFAIR, Theora is still open to the public so you are welcome to bring suggestion or join them to improve it. It is always easy to complain yet somehow, it is hard to not participate to the development.

Edited 2007-12-12 20:24

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