Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 12th Dec 2007 05:56 UTC
Benchmarks A lot was said lately about the Vorbis/Theora vs h.264/AAC situation on the draft of the HTML5. As some of you know, video is my main hobby these days (I care not about operating systems anymore), so I have gain some experience on the field lately, and at the same time this has made me more demanding about video quality. Read on for a head to head test: OGG Theora/Vorbis vs MP4 h.264/AAC. Yup, with videos. And pictures.
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What do we really want?
by abraxas on Wed 12th Dec 2007 13:37 UTC
abraxas
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2005-07-07

I think it's funny that Eugenia claims that people want quality over open standards yet she is rebuked by just about everyone here yet still wants to tell us that we want quality over open standards. As it has been said before, mediaphiles might want better quality but everyone else just wants something they can use everywhere without worrying about patent issues and DRM.

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RE: What do we really want?
by evangs on Wed 12th Dec 2007 14:29 in reply to "What do we really want?"
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2005-07-07

And Theora is more widely available than H.264? Seriously?

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RE[2]: What do we really want?
by segedunum on Wed 12th Dec 2007 16:51 in reply to "RE: What do we really want?"
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2005-07-06

And Theora is more widely available than H.264? Seriously?

You're missing the point. If video content is to become as ubiquitous and easy to get and use as web content, which is what people have been angling for with HTML 5, then we need a reasonable baseline that everyone can implement themselves - free software, open source software proprietary etc. - with a reasonably small risk.

It's not a question of being 'widely available', as Nokia and some others are pathetically trying to say. I dare say that HTML was a useless format to many in the early nineties. I also dare say that people would have said "Why should I convert my CD tracks into MP3 when MP3 isn't widely used and it has a somewhat inferior quality?"

It doesn't work like that.

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RE[2]: What do we really want?
by abraxas on Wed 12th Dec 2007 15:40 in reply to "What do we really want?"
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2005-07-07

And Theora is more widely available than H.264? Seriously?

You misinterpreted what I said. I wasn't saying it is widely available now, but it has the ability to be widely available because it isn't patent encumbered, which means anyone can implement it in any piece of software or hardware without patent or DRM issues.

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