Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Dec 2007 14:29 UTC, submitted by Dan Warne
Windows APCMag sums up the information we already have on Windows 7. "We're still in the long dark before 7's dawn, but the earliest signs are encouraging: a new streamlined kernel, an inbuilt VM for running old software, a revised and simplified UI... There's every chance that Microsoft intends Windows 7 to rise from the ashes of Vista and be what Mac OS X was for Apple."
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RE[4]: Awesome..
by stestagg on Fri 14th Dec 2007 21:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Awesome.."
stestagg
Member since:
2006-06-03

Oooh, I got a bite. ;)

Considering Avalon was the codename for WPF I don't know how much credibility you have.

Avalon was sold as actually being used in Windows Vista, not just a beta library pre-installed and left for 3rd parties to develop with.

How is there a loss of stability from removing 3rd party drivers from the kernel? That doesn't even make sense.

What I said, was that Microsoft (and it's shills) were claiming that 80% platform problems were cause by 3rd party code running in the kernel space. Longhorn was supposed to have no in-kernel drivers so would have 20% of the stability issues of XP. This has been proved not to be true.

Then you make the connection to OSX which just seals your fate as a fanboy. Let's look at the facts man

I am many things, but an Apple fanboi, I am not. If you must pidgeonhole me, then, I am a Windows XP, Ubuntu, Gnome, E17, Valve Fanboi. The OSX comment was related to the 'coincidental' timing of various software releases, and press releases.

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RE[5]: Awesome..
by Nelson on Fri 14th Dec 2007 22:15 in reply to "RE[4]: Awesome.."
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Avalon was advertised as a .NET Development platform, I'll agree that they may of cut back on how much they actually used it in their own components but the functionality is there and it's every bit as advertised.

The libraries are far from Beta, this is from personal experience. It's a really mature and fun to use platform, I don't think it's going to replace WinForms anytime soon though. I find it just a tad too daunting to do simple things.

Where did Longhorn promise no in kernel drivers? That's pretty much impossible without a huge performance loss due to the high amount of context switches you do.

They did move the Graphical, Audio, and Networking stacks and their respective drivers to User Land though. As a result, I've yet to see Vista crash as a result of a driver related to this.

Where are the missed features? You seem to be grasping for an argument.

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