Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sun 16th Dec 2007 00:02 UTC
In the News Apple and Linux are engaged in battle – a battle to win over disgruntled Windows users. But who will win, and what will the consequences be for the loser? The most commonly held belief amongst Apple and Linux fanboys is that both factions are engaged in some kind of a war with Microsoft. The truth is that if you look at the market share figure for Windows, Mac and Linux, both Mac OS and all the Linux distros that have ever been released are dwarfed by Windows.
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RE[4]: Which one
by Moulinneuf on Sun 16th Dec 2007 15:38 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Which one"
Moulinneuf
Member since:
2005-07-06

"no one saying Wine now. I tried all the apps i miss on Linux with Wine and not even one of them worked in a bearable way."

"i didn't buy a dozen virtualization Products to see if one of them might run".

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RE[5]: Which one
by Alleister on Sun 16th Dec 2007 21:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Which one"
Alleister Member since:
2006-05-29

Wow... so WineX, CrossOverOffice and Win4lin are free now? That would be good news, except they aren't and since they aren't guaranteed (and even not very likely) to run my apps, why would i waste money on them?
Win4Lin (as i understand) has no OpenGL acceleration which means 0 (as in Zero) chance of running them.

So you honestly believe it is an good alternative to spend a lot of money on emulation software, which have a very slim chance that they might run my software, with the almost certain chance that they don't support the next version of my apps just for the benefit that i might run my apps at 10% performance with twice the requirement of ram?

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RE[6]: Which one
by Xaero_Vincent on Sun 16th Dec 2007 22:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Which one"
Xaero_Vincent Member since:
2006-08-18

Alleister,

What Windows applications do you need to run?

1) Wine is free. Cedega is only good for games and hardly better at that. Crossover Office is basically Wine with some commercial support and a wizard to install common Windows applications.

2) If you have a spare computer connected to the Internet somewhere in the world (better yet, on a LAN) and that machine happens to have Windows NT 4.0 TS, 2000, XP Pro, 2003, Vista Buisness or above installed, you can create a terminal server.

With a little work (patching, compiling CVS code and changing some Windows group policy settings) you can configure the terminal to be as seamless as clicking applications icons on your Linux desktop and have it open individual program windows with taskbar items.

I can show you how and offer you my special FOSS dummy program I wrote to work around an issue. It just sits in the system tray and acts as a dummy process.

3) There are several VM solutions avialable to you, many which are free; KVM is built into the Linux kernel itself. ATM, the only noteable example of 3D acceleration for Linux VM hosts and Windows guests is VMWare Player or VMWare Workstation with VMWare Tools installed.

VMWare Player is free and it's corresponding VM files can be made online at easyvmx.com. VMWare Server is free as well but currently incapable of handling 3D because of the way it handles graphics internally.

Edited 2007-12-16 22:41

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