Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 16th Dec 2007 14:24 UTC
Windows "All promised features were cut from Vista." This is a commonly heard complaint about Windows Vista on the internet. While there certainly is a lot to complain about when it comes to Windows Vista, the mythical 'cancelled features' certainly is not one of them. Let me explain why.
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RE[5]: Missing the Point
by Nossie on Mon 17th Dec 2007 13:22 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Missing the Point"
Nossie
Member since:
2007-07-31

I got modded down for having a bad opinion of vista? did I mention macs too much? want some screenshots of me fighting with this stupid Vista service pack in vmware?

I've used all flavours of windows since 1994 and with all of them minus ME there has been significant reasons to upgrade.... looking at the promotional vid I now remember why I'm so pissed off that MS screwed US the customer over again by promising something and giving something completely different LATE.

When WinFS and powershell were taken out I thought, hey I'll at least have the pretty skirt (I actually liked the asthetic theming in XP and thought it a significant reason to use that over 2000) .. I loved the transparency in Vista and thought it was a good way to catch up with Tiger... If it was atleast as stable as XP after SP1 then all would be good.

So I started using Vista about RC3 thinking it would be stable... but it wasnt and the driver support from the major manufacturers was abysmal right up until about 6 months after the RTM! To prove this I still have better sound support with my audigy 2 ZS platpro in linux than I do in vista... Linux! for gods sake.

So about 6 months ago I thought screw it, I love office, I love adobe but anything I really need I can do on os x and everything else I can use linux for.

Even the pretty skirt wasn't enough to keep me using Vista, and although I keep going back and poking the steaming pile of shite I certainly don't recommend it to any friends or family...

Maybe I do sound like a mac fanboy in that last post but I do have a rather large amount of Windows usage and experience over the years and although it has never been my favourite OS, I cant really say I've hated it until now! Especially when its about the only OS I can use for gaming.

So hey, I'm a pirate and will burn in hell... I was fortunate to never pay for my usage of Vista and what should make it more significant is that I wont even use it for FREE! Sure, I'm no customer, but I always promoted windows for compatibility etc to relatives. And this is where you will see the surge of people turning against the great monopoly...

I dont really care about apple, as stated in my post I'm just glad that there is still a competitor to Windows, R.I.P BeOS, at least you had a working 64bit FS.

I'll be the first to admit that Steve Jobs is the master of the apple distortion field, but whatever Jobs puts out in distortion: Microsofts PR dept puts out 100 fold in hype and mis-information!

And if I was buried for my comment about the Ribbon... where is it in Vista? OFFICE, where is it in XP? OFFICE... what the hell does the ribbon have to do with Vista?

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RE[6]: Missing the Point
by Gzzy on Mon 17th Dec 2007 14:32 in reply to "RE[5]: Missing the Point"
Gzzy Member since:
2005-11-21

And if I was buried for my comment about the Ribbon... where is it in Vista? OFFICE, where is it in XP? OFFICE... what the hell does the ribbon have to do with Vista?

The original claim that inspired me to bring the Ribbon into the conversation was:

Do you see the new paradigms in the OS' behaviour or MS' applications?

Posted by Ford Perfect here:
http://osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=19055&comment_id=291438

The Ribbon in Office 2007 is one of those new paradigms from Microsoft. It was released simultaneously with Vista and it can be licensed by third partys who want to use it in their applications.
The development tools for Vista (VS 2008) have built in tools to help you design a ribbon for your own apps.

It's already in use in several non-MS apps like Mindjet MindManager:
http://blogs.msdn.com/officerocker/archive/2007/05/24/mindjet-mindm...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27442285@N00/512288011/

The Ribbon is one of the new UI paradigms from Microsoft. It uses a lot of the same concepts of Longhorn and Vista such as the Start Menu Orb, lack of traditional menus (file, edit, view etc.), Live Previews, Live Icons, Smooth Animations, Contextual Toolbars, Glass Customization etc.

It's perfectly relevant to the original quote above.

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RE[7]: Missing the Point
by bornagainenguin on Tue 18th Dec 2007 05:21 in reply to "RE[5]: Missing the Point"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

Hmmm funny how my response to this comment just disappeared...


I can't find it in my account as having been posted and the post doesn't show up as having been posted in the page itself. Nice....

--bornagainpenguin

Edited 2007-12-18 05:23

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RE[8]: Missing the Point
by Nossie on Tue 18th Dec 2007 06:03 in reply to "RE[7]: Missing the Point"
Nossie Member since:
2007-07-31

what you mean the one about reason you dont comment here too much anymore is that its too easy for your voice to go unheard because people take advantage of the moderation?

The one telling me not to get too stressed out over the fact and the observation that admins can post quite happily and no matter their content, never be modded down?

Yeah... I saw that, I guess we either must both be dreaming, or someone is censoring? or could this just be a big coincidence and your post got lost in the SQL?

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