Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Dec 2007 16:32 UTC, submitted by lmvaz
OpenBSD Richard Stallman sent a message to OpenBSD-Misc, explaining why he doesn't recommend OpenBSD. "From what I have heard, OpenBSD does not contain non-free software (though I am not sure whether it contains any non-free firmware blobs). However, its ports system does suggest non-free programs, or at least so I was told when I looked for some BSD variant that I could recommend. I therefore exercise my freedom of speech by not including OpenBSD in the list of systems that I recommend to the public." His mail started a huge thread (that's just page 1) and since then he's under a blast of messages from Theo de Raadt and the OpenBSD users. De Raadt replied: "Richard, you are wrong. You said very clearly in your interview that the ports tree contains non-free software. It does not. It is just a scaffold of Makefiles containing URLs, and an occasional patch here or there. You are just plain wrong. And you are not enough of a man to admit that you are wrong. I may be unfriendly at times, but you are a power-misusing hypocritical liar who attacks projects that try harder than any others to only make free software available. Shame on you."
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Haha
by patrick_ on Mon 17th Dec 2007 17:10 UTC
patrick_
Member since:
2006-03-02

Richard Stallman is annoying, yet funny at the same time.

He can keep his radical ways to himself and "GNU/Linux", thank you very much.

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RE: Haha
by superman on Mon 17th Dec 2007 17:24 in reply to "Haha"
superman Member since:
2006-08-01

> Richard Stallman is annoying, yet funny at the same time.

RMS is great :
- emacs
- gcc
- (L)GPL
- FSF
- ...

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RE[2]: Haha
by rcsteiner on Mon 17th Dec 2007 19:02 in reply to "RE: Haha"
rcsteiner Member since:
2005-07-12

Just because RMS has produced a lot of goodness doesn't make him above criticism. Even the most wonderful coder or project leader can make a serious gaffe now and then, and IMO when they do they should be called on it.

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RE[2]: Haha
by Oliver on Tue 18th Dec 2007 13:31 in reply to "RE: Haha"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

ESR did the major work at emacs. And gcc wasn't such a beast as today. So yes he did something, but nothing more, nothing less. But he wasn't even able to build a real operating system, just a bunch of tools.

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RE: Haha
by wirespot on Mon 17th Dec 2007 19:09 in reply to "Haha"
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

Richard Stallman is annoying, yet funny at the same time. He can keep his radical ways to himself and "GNU/Linux", thank you very much.


Feel free to reply with a small list of your personal accomplishments that have done so much for the world as RMS did with his radical, annoying and funny ways.

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RE[2]: Haha
by Lobotomik on Mon 17th Dec 2007 19:43 in reply to "RE: Haha"
Lobotomik Member since:
2006-01-03

His (or my) list of personal achievements have NOTHING to do on the subject of whatever RMS is or is not.

RMS may possibly be an asshole without knowing whether I have ever written a line of C or whether I have ever been born, for that matter.

As a free being, we are entitled to express our opinions exactly as we see fit, even more so when they are about RMS, who is a public personage with the self-assigned role in life to instruct people about the Real Ethics of Freedom.

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RE[2]: Haha
by patrick_ on Mon 17th Dec 2007 22:34 in reply to "Haha"
patrick_ Member since:
2006-03-02

Ok ok, maybe I should've said "Richard Stallman's *ways* are annoying, yet funny at the same time", as it's what I meant. You're right, Stallman has done a _lot_ of good work for the open source community. I use a lot of software created by him/GNU every day: emacs and gcc most notably.

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