Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Dec 2007 16:32 UTC, submitted by lmvaz
OpenBSD Richard Stallman sent a message to OpenBSD-Misc, explaining why he doesn't recommend OpenBSD. "From what I have heard, OpenBSD does not contain non-free software (though I am not sure whether it contains any non-free firmware blobs). However, its ports system does suggest non-free programs, or at least so I was told when I looked for some BSD variant that I could recommend. I therefore exercise my freedom of speech by not including OpenBSD in the list of systems that I recommend to the public." His mail started a huge thread (that's just page 1) and since then he's under a blast of messages from Theo de Raadt and the OpenBSD users. De Raadt replied: "Richard, you are wrong. You said very clearly in your interview that the ports tree contains non-free software. It does not. It is just a scaffold of Makefiles containing URLs, and an occasional patch here or there. You are just plain wrong. And you are not enough of a man to admit that you are wrong. I may be unfriendly at times, but you are a power-misusing hypocritical liar who attacks projects that try harder than any others to only make free software available. Shame on you."
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DOH!
by dylansmrjones on Tue 18th Dec 2007 07:42 UTC
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Member since:
2005-10-02

A classic example of RMS talking about stuff he hasn't checked and the OpenBSD-guys talking about stuff RMS didn't say.

Both groups are equally silly.

1) OpenBSD does not suggest non-free software, despite what RMS may have heard and he is a joke on this issue.

and

2) The stupid OpenBSD-devs and users completely misunderstand RMS. He's attacked for claiming OpenBSD containts non-free software despite CLEARLY never claiming any such thing. It goes to prove OpenBSD guys cannot read and cannot understand simple words. They are as usual the clowns in the community.

And it goes to prove RMS should think (at least once, twice or thrice would be even better - but probably too much too ask for) before he pushes rumours.


.... Damn, what a way to start a day.

RE: DOH!
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 18th Dec 2007 07:51 in reply to "DOH!"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The stupid OpenBSD-devs and users completely misunderstand RMS. He's attacked for claiming OpenBSD containts non-free software despite CLEARLY never claiming any such thing. It goes to prove OpenBSD guys cannot read and cannot understand simple words. They are as usual the clowns in the community.


As others and myself have pointed out a few times already: RMS said in an interview that was the cause of this controversy that the ports tree DOES contain non-free software. The interview is linked to in an earlier post in this thread.

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RE[2]: DOH!
by dylansmrjones on Tue 18th Dec 2007 08:11 in reply to "RE: DOH!"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

YES. And in that interview RMS never puts forth the claim that OpenBSD contains non-free software. Never. He only claims the OpenBSD is non-free in his definition.

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RE: DOH!
by Soulbender on Tue 18th Dec 2007 09:12 in reply to "DOH!"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

.... Damn, what a way to start a day.


Consider yourself lucky. I've had to read this nonsense since last week.

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