Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Dec 2007 10:22 UTC
Legal As we say in Dutch, de kogel is door de kerk: Think Secret will cease all activities after reaching a settlement with Apple in a lawsuit Apple had filed against the website. In exchange for closing down Think Secret, Nick DePlume, its owner, will not have to reveal its sources to Apple. The press release on the Think Secret website reads: "Apple and Think Secret have settled their lawsuit, reaching an agreement that results in a positive solution for both sides. As part of the confidential settlement, no sources were revealed and Think Secret will no longer be published." My take: I have respect for the way DePlume protected his sources; very commendable. I have, however, little respect for Apple in this case (I have written, rather controversially, about it before), and it just scares the living daylights out of me that a company can exert this much power over independent websites.
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RE[7]: Pardon?
by kaiwai on Thu 20th Dec 2007 17:08 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Pardon?"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

Now that's a saying I've never understood. I don't think we have a saying comparable to that in Danish. I guess it means something like "continuing the debate". All good and stuff, except when free speech is involved. That's never for debate ;)


What I find ironic is that although people here promote the virtues of 'freedom of speech' and yet, these same people see fit to censor those posts whom they disagree with via the moderation system.

Hypocrisy on this website seems to have no limits.

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RE[8]: Pardon?
by dylansmrjones on Thu 20th Dec 2007 19:34 in reply to "RE[7]: Pardon?"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

The moderation thing is one thing I haven't figured out. Personally I think posting information about who voted you up (as well as down) would stop the problem.

That said, I prefer a "Report abuse..." link for each post rather than voting as such.

Usually I mod you up, but right now I refrain from doing it :p - that said, I haven't modded you down either.

-Kristian

PS: It's usually a good idea avoiding bashing Windows, KDE, Gnome, Linux, *BSD and OS X in the same post. That's like asking for -25 I've discovered. Doesn't matter if your criticism is wellconstructed and supported by facts/3rd party sources (even with links to such facts/3rd party sources).

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RE[9]: Pardon?
by kaiwai on Fri 21st Dec 2007 00:11 in reply to "RE[8]: Pardon?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

The moderation thing is one thing I haven't figured out. Personally I think posting information about who voted you up (as well as down) would stop the problem.

That said, I prefer a "Report abuse..." link for each post rather than voting as such.

Usually I mod you up, but right now I refrain from doing it :p - that said, I haven't modded you down either.


Yeap, thats what I proposed too; we'll find out who is actually debating, and who is just randomly going through the forum censoring posts (I don't call it marking down because it would be giving their actions a form of legitimacy they don't deserve) and who isn't actually contributing to the discourse.

I don't mind differences of opinion, infact I love to see a good rigorous debate, and yet, come out the other end, and still be friends. Too many here, however, see it as a personal vandetta, taking it from a debate to some sort of personal crusade against someone - some sort of personal grudge.

PS: It's usually a good idea avoiding bashing Windows, KDE, Gnome, Linux, *BSD and OS X in the same post. That's like asking for -25 I've discovered. Doesn't matter if your criticism is wellconstructed and supported by facts/3rd party sources (even with links to such facts/3rd party sources).


But then doesn't it make the whole forum a complete wasted effort to actually read? I want to read a forum where there is cut and thrust; good solid arguments, arguing over the technical nitty gritty rather than this school girl blather of name calling I see going on here; or worse, "my dad can beat up your dad!" type attitude.

Edited 2007-12-21 00:12

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