Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 23rd Dec 2007 17:41 UTC, submitted by koki
BeOS & Derivatives "It looks like the Haiku Webkit port initiated by Ryan Leavengood has entered a productive second stage of development, and thanks to the recent work by one of the new project team members, Andrea 'xeD' Anzani, tangible progress has been made as shown by the recent screenshot showing the HaikuLauncher application rendering bebits.com. I was curious about his work, so I went directly to the source and asked a few questions to Andrea; here are his answers." On a related note, Haiku now has a new nightly build archive.
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RE[3]: haiku dev seems pointless
by smitty on Sun 23rd Dec 2007 23:01 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: haiku dev seems pointless"
smitty
Member since:
2005-10-13

Webkit is quite portable, for a browser. You can emphasize the first part of that sentence, or the last. Still, it's not exactly news that it's more difficult to port programs to Haiku, because the OS's API is fairly different from most others. That's really what makes Haiku interesting, though.

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mckill Member since:
2007-06-12

how is being different interesting? is it better in your mind simply because it is different or is there something technically superior to its development process (for apps)?

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smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

It encourages highly multi-threaded apps, which used to important for responsiveness, and is now increasingly important due to consumers cpus having multiple cores.

Whether it's actually superior, I'll leave to devs who have actually developed on it. I think many have complained that it's more difficult to develop with, but perhaps give a superior end-user experience.

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izomiac Member since:
2006-07-26

Well, it would be easier to port stuff if Haiku became a Linux clone, but then why would anyone want to use it rather than Linux? As for the API, I like it, but I don't know any other APIs so I can't compare. It is easy to learn/use though (the transition from Java to C++ was more difficult for a newbie dev like me).

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

how is being different interesting?

Did you just ask that in public?...

And where did the poster say that "interesting" equated to "better"?

As for porting "portable" apps - you seem a little bit dense to believe that it shouldn't be difficult... Maybe it's portable to the top three operating systems out there, but that's only because many developers have made sure to keep it that way. Bringing a "portable" app to a new platform surely requires work, especially if all the libraries and dependencies it uses are not already ported to that platform as well.

It seems like instead of trolling, you should maybe be content with news about your current platform of choice. Clearly reading about different operating systems with different APIs couldn't possibly aspire to your interests.

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

how is being different interesting?


From the context, I would assume that smitty meant: many of the aspects which make BeOS / Haiku interesting lie in its differences from other OSes, not that it's different solely for the sake of being different.

It's a subtle distinction, but an important one. I always thought that the "think different" ads were stupid for that exact reason - the type of nonsense that appeals to faux-intellectuals who think that being blindly anti-populist is the same thing as having discerning tastes (while failing to realize the irony that blind contrarianism is just as intellectually-lazy as blind conformity).

That's one particular thing I've always liked about the BeOS community - it's largely free of those sorts of pretentions, at least IME.

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