Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 26th Dec 2007 09:50 UTC
Gnome There is a controversy in the Linux world. It doesn't have to do with Microsoft, or anything overtly technical. It may seem, to the outsider, the open source equivalent of the question, "Boxers or briefs?" But it's much more serious than that. More here.
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RE[5]: not just Linux
by neowolf on Wed 26th Dec 2007 21:39 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: not just Linux"
neowolf
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2005-07-06

In other words, they avoided writing apps that a third party could write themselves, but decided to focus their attention to apps that are essential to the desktop experience, one where tight integration is a must, anything else would be handled by the distromakers.

While KDE definitely bundles more software than GNOME, some of this seems to simply just be a matter of time. Both bundle web browsers, full featured email suites, video players, music players, CD burning software. They're both trying to deliver the same thing. A complete desktop environment. They simply differ in their approach.

Personally I love and hate this, as while I love choice, I have too much positive and negative to say about both making it difficult to choose!

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RE[6]: not just Linux
by KugelKurt on Thu 27th Dec 2007 21:16 in reply to "RE[5]: not just Linux"
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2005-07-06

KDE doesn't bundle software. The packager does. There's lot's of software written within the KDE community, but most of it is optional. I don't have to install KPDF, I don't have to install Kopete, I don't have to install Amarok, etc. These are all separate packages at least on (K)Ubuntu and openSUSE.
Usually distributors define meta-packages like "kubuntu-desktop" on (K)Ubuntu that install many apps in one go, but kubuntu-desktop != KDE just like the ububtu-desktop package is not identical to GNOME.

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RE[7]: not just Linux
by neowolf on Fri 28th Dec 2007 02:16 in reply to "RE[6]: not just Linux"
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2005-07-06

It's true that bundling is up to the distro, but many of these projects are tied to their respective desktops. KPDF and Kopete are both official parts of KDE. Amarok is as well to a lesser degree, being part of KDE extragear as unlike the prior two it's not tied to KDE's release schedule.

Likewise though of course, Evince is a part of Gnome. Empathy is on it's way to being a part of the main desktop, and Rhythmbox is practically already there.

Though the most important point you hit on is that you're not required to have any of these with most modern distributions.

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