Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Jan 2008 20:35 UTC, submitted by koki
According to a news post on the Haiku project website, a new port team is being formed to bring Java technologies to the Haiku platform. The goal of the Haiku Java Team is to port OpenJDK to Haiku, and they would like to see the port included within the structure of Sun's OpenJDK project. The Haiku developers have already been in contact with members of the OpenJDK Porters Group to pursue their objective, and a formal proposal has also been submitted for consideration by the OpenJDK project. The Haiku Java Team is an initiative lead by Bryan Varner, who together with Andrew Bachmann worked on the port of Java to BeOS in the past (demo video).
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RE[2]: Good for them! Where is the installer?
by deb2006 on Fri 4th Jan 2008 22:37
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1. That is a very lame excuse. I brought the topic up on of the Haiku lists, but apparently noone cares about people actually wanting to use it.
2. The shortcomings of ISO can easily be overcome. See Linux for example. There is a way to start a Linux installation from pure DOS. The same should be true to BeOS/Haiku. Don't blame it on ISO.
3. People want to try out Haiku - and most of them DON'T have a BeOS installation. So be prepared for these people and help them. Let them try Haiku - they can help you in giving you valuable information about compatible/incompatible hardware etc. p.p. Work with them and involve them!
RE[3]: Good for them! Where is the installer?
by bryanv on Sat 5th Jan 2008 01:27
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1) It's not ready for people to actually use it. I know, I know, seems a bit strange... but we still can't compile Haiku with Haiku (yet).
2 & 3) You can build AND install to a spare partition from Linux. No BeOS pre-requisite exists. There is information in the developer docs on the haiku-os.org website that mentions ways to do this. Asking on a mailing list will get multiple, helpful responses.
RE[3]: Good for them! Where is the installer?
by StephenBeDoper on Sat 5th Jan 2008 15:43
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Member since:2005-07-06
1. That is a very lame excuse. I brought the topic up on of the Haiku lists, but apparently noone cares about people actually wanting to use it.
That's a lazy bit of mischaracterization. Considering that it is, in fact, quite easy to install Haiku on real hardware - if you can't figure it out, then perhaps you shouldn't be trying out pre-alpha software?
2. The shortcomings of ISO can easily be overcome. See Linux for example.
Um, there was nothing *to* overcome in order to install Linux from ISO filesystems. Do you actually have any understanding of why BeOS can't be installed from an ISO filesystem, or are you just assuming that it's trivially-easy because it can be done with Linux?
RE[2]: Good for them! Where is the installer?
by areimann on Sat 5th Jan 2008 00:13
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I think that there is a need for a team to just write an installer. People aren't going to like it even if Haiku is at Release candidate 3 1.0. They are going to like the simplicity or not. You don't create a fan-base by waiting forever for a perfect product. People want to see a different OS on their computer, if it's good, they will wait.
And yes, I am sure it is easy to install Haiku if you have done it before. I have, but that is because I used my BeOS 4.5 CD to partition it, etc. It's just not easy for everyone.
RE[3]: Good for them! Where is the installer?
by bryanv on Sat 5th Jan 2008 01:29
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Well, Haiku is still alpha so I'd say the reason you don't see ISOs is to prevent people from trying it, saying it sucks, and never trying it again. It does run on real hardware (not mine unfortunately). Plus I've never seen a BeOS install/live cd in the ISO format, it's always .bin/.cue due to some shortcomings in ISO.
Also, Haiku is as easy to install as the BeOS, so writing an installer would be fairly straight-forward. Here's the manual process from BeOS (or an install/live CD):
1) Format a BFS partition.
2) Mount the Haiku drive image.
3) Copy the files.