Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Jan 2008 20:47 UTC
KDE KDE's Aaron Seigo (who owes me a Martini) wrote about a few often-heard misconceptions and questions regarding KDE 4.0, which is supposed to be released January 11th. "Now that 4.0.0 is tagged and out and that bit of worry and concern is behind me for the moment, I wanted to take a moment to talk really bluntly about 4.0. In particular, I'm going to address some of the common memes in fairly random order that I see about kde 3.5 and 4.0. I'm going to speak bluntly (though not rudely) so prepare yourself."
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by Hiev on Sat 5th Jan 2008 01:01 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
Hiev
Member since:
2005-09-27

I have no problems with that, but they called 4.0 a stable realease and is not.

btw KDE 4.0 is also part of KDE4.

If KDE 4.1 happens to be a dissapointing release too what will KDE4 be? KDE 4.2+? or what is exactly KDE4? KDE 4.8, KDE 4.9? Is not clear and just used as an excuse.

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by KAMiKAZOW on Sat 5th Jan 2008 01:13 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

I have no problems with that, but they called 4.0 a stable realease and is not.


It's not the most functional desktop in the world, but it is stable. I downloaded yesterday's SVN build via the openSUSE Build Service and played with it for a while yesterday and today. I didn't encounter major bugs in the core applications. There are missing features, the over-use of sound notifications annoys me, but did anything crash? No.

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by Hiev on Sat 5th Jan 2008 01:14 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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by melkor on Sat 5th Jan 2008 01:14 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

Oh please. It has been clearly stated a number of times that KDE 4.0 is a 'technology release'. It is designed to lay down the technology, that others will use to design applications that will integrate with the KDE desktop environment.

It is also a redesign of the look, and feel of the environment, with the eye to improvements in usability over older versions of KDE (you gotta keep the pro Gnome anti KDE UI whingers happy).

It's a foundation release, with developers expected to add to it and improve it, in the actual spirit of open source development. I mean, if people took your attitude, then the Linux kernel would never have gotten anywhere!!! People would have been saying "oh, but it's slow...", "oh, but it doesn't do X feature", "oh, but X application won't run on it, or run well on it", or "I don't like the way that looks/feels/works" and so on. All software projects grow, and improve over time, why not give the KDE team a chance and see how things are six months down the track?

I stopped using Gnome circa v1.4, as I no longer liked the look and feel etc. I didn't start bagging it until version 2.4 or so, when it became obvious that a lot of Gnome users were simply bagging KDE (which I honestly prefer in terms of UI) for the sheer sake of self promotion (of Gnome).

Dave

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by superstoned on Sat 5th Jan 2008 17:44 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

KDE 4.0 indeed is a foundation release. "to put the foundations in place for future innovations", I believe that was stated in the release announcements for the beta's and RC's quite a lot. Actually, I KNOW it was, as I wrote it. It is rather unfortunate people apparently have a hard time reading properly...

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