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Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Jan 2008 08:18 UTC, submitted by Kaj de Vos

After an extensive development period, the Syllable project has released Syllable Desktop 0.6.5 with improvements all over. As always there are bug fixes, most notably in USB and the network stack, leading to large reliability and performance improvements. LibUSB and SANE were ported, so there is now USB access from user space and support for scanners. There are new network and video drivers, including a unique S3 DeltaChrome driver that Arno Klenke wrote from scratch. Two new window decorators debut from John Aspras. CD burning ability is now integrated in the form of SimpleBurn and CDRTools. A new network preferences applet from Andrew Kennan was integrated, and also Arno Klenke's port of OpenBeFS. Many ports were upgraded and the system layout has been heavily reorganised. Files needed for compiling software have been split off in a separate package. This is also the release that harmonises a number of things between Syllable Desktop and Syllable Server. The full change log is here. Installation CDs, the upgrade, and images for emulators are here. Additional software can be found here.

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RE: OpenBFS

by Vanders on Tue 8th Jan 2008 10:29 UTC in reply to "OpenBFS"

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2005-07-06

Is BFS now an option for installation?

No. GRUB won't boot it and the kernel block cache needs work before BFS works reliably.

AFS is still quite immature and buggy from what I've been following on the mailing list over the years.

AFS has it's bugs but then so does OpenBFS. I've had AFS recover from some pretty bad crashes with some big journals to reply, and we haven't seen the old "empty_delme_dir() bug" in a long time.

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RE[2]: OpenBFS

by a_youll on Tue 8th Jan 2008 12:31 in reply to "RE: OpenBFS"

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2008-01-04

Didn't SkyOS release it's GRUB modifications that allowed OpenBFS to be booted by GRUB? as SkyFS is derived from OpenBFS

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RE[2]: OpenBFS

by Darkness on Tue 8th Jan 2008 12:35 in reply to "RE: OpenBFS"

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2005-08-27

"Is BFS now an option for installation?

No. GRUB won't boot it and the kernel block cache needs work before BFS works reliably. "

SkyOS uses a modified GRUB 0.92 that includes code to boot BFS or SkyFS partitions. The source can be found somewhere in the news archive on skyos.org

Edited 2008-01-08 12:35 UTC

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RE[3]: OpenBFS

by Vanders on Tue 8th Jan 2008 12:44 in reply to "RE[2]: OpenBFS"

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2005-07-06

Yes, we know. We've not bothered to merge them into our version of GRUB. It's pointless at the moment given that the block cache simply isn't up to the task of running an installation from BFS.

Edited 2008-01-08 12:44

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RE[2]: OpenBFS

by madechidna on Tue 8th Jan 2008 19:28 in reply to "RE: OpenBFS"

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2006-01-03

What the heck are you talking about? I added Haiku to my GRUB with Ubuntu and it works fine, and Haiku uses bfs.

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RE[3]: OpenBFS

by Vanders on Tue 8th Jan 2008 20:34 in reply to "RE[2]: OpenBFS"

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2005-07-06

Standard GRUB will not boot a BFS partition. I'm looking at my Ubuntu 7.10 installation right now, and there is no bfs_stage1_5 file. e2fs, FAT, JFS, Reiser and XFS, but no BFS.

So whatever you're doing, you are not using the standard GRUB that comes with Ubuntu.

The version of GRUB that comes with Syllable will also not boot BFS. Hence why I said "GRUB won't boot it".

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