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Kubuntu released too, but!
by kragil on Fri 11th Jan 2008 02:06 UTC
kragil
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2006-01-04

.. it will have two versions. One stable with 3.5.8 which is ONLY supported for 18 months!
And one with KDE 4.0 with is only supported for 6 months!

I think Canonical isnt really interested in KDE anymore and i think that kinda sux!

If they go this road there is no real reason why the 3.5.8 release should not have been a LTS.
So IMHO it boils down to: Canonical does not like KDE anymore PERIOD

Me sad ;,-(

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RE: Kubuntu released too, but!
by nighty5 on Fri 11th Jan 2008 02:14 in reply to "Kubuntu released too, but!"
nighty5 Member since:
2005-12-18

stop your wining - Ubuntu have some very legitimate reasons for only supporting KDE 4.0 for 6 months. They have explained this already.

Basically there is no point in supporting a platform for 18 months when it will undergo immense change over that period of time, by the end of 2008 we'll see a much more polished version of KDE 4.1.

Remember KDE 4.0.0 is not KDE 4. Its the first developer release of the software.

This makes complete sense, they are not dropping the platform.

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RE: Kubuntu released too, but!
by NeoChaosX on Fri 11th Jan 2008 02:19 in reply to "Kubuntu released too, but!"
NeoChaosX Member since:
2005-07-06

Canonical went down this road because (as one Ubuntu developer put it) there was no way they were going to guarantee that KDE 3 was going to be worked on and supported until 2011. KDE 4's release is the reason for this; a lot of development is shifting to KDE 4, and Canonical doesn't want to risk components of KDE 3 going unmaintained at any time during the 3 year support cycle.

And besides, Canonical has hinted at 8.10 (with KDE 4.1) being Kubuntu's LTS instead. I'd hardly say a different support/release schedule for Kubuntu means Canonical is not interested in KDE; it's just more business as usual considering it's no secret Canonical puts more of their effort behind GNOME.

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elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Canonical went down this road because (as one Ubuntu developer put it) there was no way they were going to guarantee that KDE 3 was going to be worked on and supported until 2011. KDE 4's release is the reason for this; a lot of development is shifting to KDE 4, and Canonical doesn't want to risk components of KDE 3 going unmaintained at any time during the 3 year support cycle.


Meh. It's been discussed in other places, but that was either an uninformed decision or a strictly partisan one. At any rate, KDE has committed to supporting 3.x alongside 4.x. In fact, 3.5.9 will be released at some point after 4.0.1/4.1.

Novell is supporting KDE 3.x for more than 3 years on SLED, even RH supports KDE/Qt on their enterprise products, which means they'll need to support it beyond 3 years. Debian by their very nature will probably be using 3.x for the next 3 years simply because it will take that long to move to 4.x. Xandros will be supporting 3.x. One assumes that the commercial Asianuxes, like RF or Turbo, will also support KDE 3.x beyond, particularly since Turbo is popular with the Asian banks.

If they could have admitted that the problem is that Canonical only employs a single KDE developer with everyone else tasked to Gnome, then at least they'd have a credible reason. But they didn't. So Canonical stands alone as one of the few commercial linux support organizations, actually the only one I'm aware of, that is unable to commit to supporting one of the most popular desktop environments, albeit not their *own* most popular desktop environment.

*buntu is free to decide how they build their distro and what to support, but their excuse for KDE is a cop-out. It was an intentional decision.

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RE: Kubuntu released too, but!
by Sabz on Sat 12th Jan 2008 05:52 in reply to "Kubuntu released too, but!"
Sabz Member since:
2005-07-07

.. it will have two versions. One stable with 3.5.8 which is ONLY supported for 18 months!
And one with KDE 4.0 with is only supported for 6 months!

I think Canonical isnt really interested in KDE anymore and i think that kinda sux!

If they go this road there is no real reason why the 3.5.8 release should not have been a LTS.
So IMHO it boils down to: Canonical does not like KDE anymore PERIOD

Me sad ;,-(

thats like saying Redhat/Fedora doesnt like KDE, bit stupid, Canonical/Ubuntu has always been a Gnome Based OS where its main focus is, just like Redhat/Fedora, an now OpenSuse

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