Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Jan 2008 12:00 UTC
KDE 4.0.0 has been released onto the world. "The KDE Community is thrilled to announce the immediate availability of KDE 4.0. This significant release marks both the end of the long and intensive development cycle leading up to KDE 4.0 and the beginning of the KDE 4 era." KDE 4.0 is the first release of "KDE 4", but take note that the developers have clearly stated that KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4, but more of a base release with all the underlying systems ready to go, but with still a lot of work to be done on the user-visible side. Download it from the KDE 4.0 info page. Update: Screenshots.
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RE[5]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4"
by sbergman27 on Sat 12th Jan 2008 10:34
in reply to "RE[4]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4""
Member since:2005-07-24
So KDE 3.0 is not KDE 3. But KDE 3.0 is KDE 3.
It's quite simple. If the facet of KDE X.0 under discussion makes KDE X look good, then KDE X.0 is KDE X. And if the facet of KDE X.0 under discussion does not make KDE X look good, then KDE X.0 is not KDE X.
Does that clear things up? ;-)
Edited 2008-01-12 10:38 UTC
RE[5]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4"
by lemur2 on Sat 12th Jan 2008 10:38
in reply to "RE[4]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4""
Member since:2007-02-17
You just said that KDE 3 is KDE 3 and KDE 3 is not KDE 3.
> KDE 3.0, released April 3 2002, was not KDE 3.
> Every release of KDE with the major version number = 3 (that is, every release that matches the pattern KDE 3.*.*) is a KDE 3 release.
So KDE 3.0 is not KDE 3. But KDE 3.0 is KDE 3. Do you actually believe this, or are you getting tongue-tied?
> KDE 3.0, released April 3 2002, was not KDE 3.
> Every release of KDE with the major version number = 3 (that is, every release that matches the pattern KDE 3.*.*) is a KDE 3 release.
So KDE 3.0 is not KDE 3. But KDE 3.0 is KDE 3. Do you actually believe this, or are you getting tongue-tied?
I'm not getting tongue tied, and I said nothing of the sort.
It works like this:
- KDE 3.0 is part of the KDE 3 series or releases, the first one (release) of the series in fact.
- The KDE 3 series of releases is most often referred to as simply "KDE 3".
- Typically, when one says "KDE 3" one means the whole series, not just the one release KDE 3.0.0 (or for that matter any other release KDE 3.something.something).
- Ergo, KDE 3.0.0 is not KDE 3. KDE 3.0.0 is just one release within KDE 3.
- Likewise for KDE 4.0.0. Although KDE 4.0.0 happens right now to be the only release in the KDE 4 series, that won't remain true even for the whole of just this year.
- Ergo, KDE 4.0.0 is not KDE 4.
Follow?
It doesn't matter if you do, or don't follow, it is perfectly clear to people of adequate intelligence.
The term "Windows XP" does not refer exclusively to just any one of these products:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp#Editions
... nor does it refer exclusively to any particular one of these releases:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp#Service_packs
Rather the term "Windows XP" refers to the whole set:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp
"Windows XP is a line of operating systems developed by Microsoft for use on general-purpose computer systems, including home and business desktops, notebook computers, and media centers."
Just as the term "Windows XP" refers to a whole series of operating system releases, so to does the term "KDE 3" refer to a series of desktop releases. The term "KDE 4" refers to a newer series of the same line, just as the term "Windows Vista" refers to a newer series of a line of operating system releases from Microsoft.
RE[6]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4"
by Luminair on Sat 12th Jan 2008 15:22
in reply to "RE[5]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4""
Member since:2007-03-30
It works like this:
- KDE 3.0 is part of the KDE 3 series or releases, the first one (release) of the series in fact.
- The KDE 3 series of releases is most often referred to as simply "KDE 3".
- Typically, when one says "KDE 3" one means the whole series, not just the one release KDE 3.0.0 (or for that matter any other release KDE 3.something.something).
- Ergo, KDE 3.0.0 is not KDE 3. KDE 3.0.0 is just one release within KDE 3.
- KDE 3.0 is part of the KDE 3 series or releases, the first one (release) of the series in fact.
- The KDE 3 series of releases is most often referred to as simply "KDE 3".
- Typically, when one says "KDE 3" one means the whole series, not just the one release KDE 3.0.0 (or for that matter any other release KDE 3.something.something).
- Ergo, KDE 3.0.0 is not KDE 3. KDE 3.0.0 is just one release within KDE 3.
Man, I've taken some propositional logic courses in my life time, and you just failed them. You are definitely in a crazy minority on this.
RE[6]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4"
by WereCatf on Sat 12th Jan 2008 16:30
in reply to "RE[5]: "KDE 4.0 is not KDE 4""
Member since:2006-02-15
It works like this:
- KDE 3.0 is part of the KDE 3 series or releases, the first one (release) of the series in fact.
- The KDE 3 series of releases is most often referred to as simply "KDE 3".
- Typically, when one says "KDE 3" one means the whole series, not just the one release KDE 3.0.0 (or for that matter any other release KDE 3.something.something).
- Ergo, KDE 3.0.0 is not KDE 3. KDE 3.0.0 is just one release within KDE 3.
KDE 3.0.0 is not WHOLE KDE 3, but it is one release within KDE 3 and as such it can be referred to as "KDE 3". KDE 3.0 is as much KDE3 as KDE 3.5 is KDE3. Ergo, KDE 4.0 is as much KDE4 as KDE 4.1. Either you call them all KDE4 or you call none of them KDE4.
As for trying to use Windows XP as an example..well, you call Windows XP without any SP applied Windows XP anyway, don't you? So KDE4.0 is KDE4 too.
Member since:
2007-03-30
You just said that KDE 3 is KDE 3 and KDE 3 is not KDE 3.
> KDE 3.0, released April 3 2002, was not KDE 3.
> Every release of KDE with the major version number = 3 (that is, every release that matches the pattern KDE 3.*.*) is a KDE 3 release.
So KDE 3.0 is not KDE 3. But KDE 3.0 is KDE 3. Do you actually believe this, or are you getting tongue-tied?