Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Jan 2008 21:49 UTC, submitted by Bleistift
Windows TG Daily is busy rumouring about Windows 7. "Several industry sources have confirmed to TG Daily that a very early version of Windows 7, previously code-named Blackcomb Vienna, already has been shipped to 'key partners' as a 'Milestone 1' code drop for validation purposes. A roadmap received by TG Daily indicates that the new operating system will be introduced in the second half of 2009."
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2019
by mcduck on Wed 16th Jan 2008 22:01 UTC
mcduck
Member since:
2005-11-23

I belive there is a spelling error in the story.

Surely it must be 2019.

RE: 2019
by sonic2000gr on Wed 16th Jan 2008 22:33 in reply to "2019"
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2007-05-20

It should better not take THAT long...

Even with 2019's hardware, Vista will not run at acceptable speed...

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RE[2]: 2019
by astroraptor on Fri 18th Jan 2008 03:01 in reply to "RE: 2019"
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2005-07-22

I wonder if it'll run on the ESPER system? ;)

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RE: 2019
by thavith_osn on Thu 17th Jan 2008 10:08 in reply to "2019"
thavith_osn Member since:
2005-07-11

Um, I'm not sure you can spell a numeric value wrong can you? lol... I take your point...

Well, personally I don't think it will be the second half of 2009, it will be 2011 at the earliest I would guess, but not because of what happened with Vista, but because of what other OS's including OS X will have in them by then, MS will need to catch up and add those features too. They have to catch up on 2 fronts, the OS and the mobile phone side and come up with something to take on the iPhone, which will mean a version of windows that can run on a small platform and compete (even at the current 2008 level) with some of what the iPhone and Leopard are doing as far as the API level is concerned.

To be honest, I think MS needs to bite the bullet and start again (just like Apple had too).

Maybe a scenario such as...
1. grabbing the Win2008 server as a base (I know, I think *nix would be better, but that is never going to happen)
2. only managed .Net code goes on top, nothing else
3. no access directly to hardware
4. older win32 code (so basically most of the code today) to run in a "classic" mode.

This would allow MS bring a stable platform that is new, safe, light and agile (that is, can run on a lot of platforms) with no baggage. Maybe this is what MinWin is?

Now the biggest objection people would have that classic mode would be slow for gamers, and I think it probably would as you still don't have (or shouldn't have) complete access to hardware.

I suggest MS bring out a very light stripped down OS esp. for gamers that is basically a stripped down XP that does one thing, runs games, and runs them fast, maybe a simple interface similar to Media Centre perhaps (I haven't seen what the XBox does, but maybe it has a simple interface they could use)...

The other reason this is a good idea is that developers would move existing code from Win32 across to .Net much faster as noone wants to run stuff in "classic" mode. It happened on the Mac, so should happen on the PC (thought the base is so much larger).

Anyway, just some thoughts I had the other day...

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RE[2]: 2019
by TemporalBeing on Thu 17th Jan 2008 14:28 in reply to "RE: 2019"
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2007-08-22

Well, personally I don't think it will be the second half of 2009, it will be 2011 at the earliest I would guess, but not because of what happened with Vista, but because of what other OS's including OS X will have in them by then, MS will need to catch up and add those features too. They have to catch up on 2 fronts, the OS and the mobile phone side and come up with something to take on the iPhone, which will mean a version of windows that can run on a small platform and compete (even at the current 2008 level) with some of what the iPhone and Leopard are doing as far as the API level is concerned.

Well in a manner, that is what MinWin and Windows Core are about - stripping down the OS to the bare "essentials" (sorry, I don't agree that a GUI is an essential) and then building up from there. It should allow them to separate out parts of the system for development, and integrate them back in more efficiently. So, it may be possible that a H2 2009 or H1 2010 might be possible. We'll see.

You are right though about catching up. Even Vista has needs to play catchup in many respects. ;-)

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