Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Jan 2008 22:36 UTC
KDE "The long-awaited KDE 4.0.0 was released last week as scheduled. Even though the expectations - following a couple of less than convincing release candidates - weren't very high and the consensus was that the first release of KDE 4 would be more of a 'technology preview' than a usable desktop environment for general deployment, it's hard not to see the enormous amount of good work that has gone into the new code. As Kubuntu's Jonathan Riddell put it, KDE 4 is the start of something amazing and this is possibly the best definition of the current release - it's here, it's available, but it's nowhere near ready for the prime time. It's a decent start, though. Unsurprisingly, the reaction of distributions was a mixed bag. Below is a summary of information about the availability of KDE 4.0.0 in various distributions."
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openSUSE
by elsewhere on Wed 16th Jan 2008 23:15 UTC
elsewhere
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2005-07-13

Just to add a couple of points, the hope right now is that they will be able to feature KDE 4.1 for 11.0, though neither schedule has been finalized yet.

It's also worth pointing out that as they did during the KDE4 development process, openSUSE will soon be maintaining packages not just for KDE4 stable, but also for svn snapshots built on a bi-weekly basis. This will make it easier for those that want to try and follow the project as developments are pushed into svn, without the hassle of svn downloads and compilation. In fact, the current KDE 4.0 packages apparently contain patches from svn after 4.0.0 was tagged.

With all the complaining about the recent release of 4.0.0, it is worth pointing out that the user experience can be greatly influenced by the amount of work the distro developers put into their packaging of it.

Just my 2c...

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RE: openSUSE
by KugelKurt on Wed 16th Jan 2008 23:30 in reply to "openSUSE"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Just to add a couple of points, the hope right now is that they will be able to feature KDE 4.1 for 11.0, though neither schedule has been finalized yet.

openSUSE's schedule has been finalized. It will be released in June. That's probably too soon for KDE 4.1, because distributions usually want a few weeks of test period on their own before packages get included in the distribution.

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RE[2]: openSUSE
by elsewhere on Thu 17th Jan 2008 15:44 in reply to "RE: openSUSE"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

openSUSE's schedule has been finalized. It will be released in June.


I humbly stand corrected, I misinterpreted one of the emails and thought the roadmap dates were proposed but not finalized.

That's probably too soon for KDE 4.1, because distributions usually want a few weeks of test period on their own before packages get included in the distribution.


Not in this case, openSUSE isn't "most distributions" when it comes to KDE ;) KDE 4.x is being packaged and tested parallel to factory. Rolling packages will be available built from KDE svn against the rolling packages from factory (as well as 10.2/10.3) through the development cycle.

Of course, if something horribly goes wrong with KDE 4.1 during the development, then they will probably have to pull back. But even if openSUSE 11.0 is forced to release with KDE 4.0.x, it will very likely be heavily patched with whatever functionality from 4.1 the devs feel they can port safely. It wouldn't be the first time they do this, every version of openSUSE KDE contains a combination of custom openSUSE-specific patches as well as patches from kde.org when it makes sense.

They even included KDE4 packages built from beta-source as part of 10.3, though mostly the games, which were among the first applications successfully ported over and stabilized against the new framework, and they were intended to be run on a KDE3 desktop.

The next developer meeting is coming up at the end of the month, and with the dust dying down at that point from the KDE 4.0 launch and the release party in Googletown, hopefully there will be a clearer timeline to work against for KDE integration.

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