Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 18th Jan 2008 10:38 UTC, submitted by glyphobet
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Glyphobet writes "I've largely stopped reporting bugs to Ubuntu because of the condescending and dismissive attitude from their developers. Until Ubuntu's bug management culture starts to change, people like me, who can actually help make Ubuntu better, will be less and less likely to contribute."
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Karma system
by kmarius on Fri 18th Jan 2008 11:13 UTC
kmarius
Member since:
2005-06-30

A problem with open source is that a lot of developers only cares about functionality that they use themselves. With unpaid contributers, this is understandable since they donate their own time. And we can't complain about how people use their own time :-)

Perhaps they could introduce some sort of karma system, where each bug you fix adds to your score. The number of points could be a combination of severity, age and complexity.

A trivial bug doesn't give many points when it is reported, but will accumulate extra points for each month it is not fixed.

This might give them added incentive to also do the boring jobs. When the bugs are not interesting, perhaps the extra recognition will help?

Edited 2008-01-18 11:16 UTC

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RE: Karma system
by Soulbender on Fri 18th Jan 2008 11:21 in reply to "Karma system"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

A problem with open source is that a lot of developers only cares about functionality that they use themselves.


Come on, this has NOTHING to do with open source. Same thing happen with closed source software. No company is going to spend resources fixing obscure bugs that affect a tiny fraction of their users.

Perhaps they could introduce some sort of karma system, where each bug you fix adds to your score.


What is this? Kindergarten?
"Hmmm..sit at home working on a boring bug I dont care about so I can get same "karma" points that is about as usefull in RL as Beenz or do something I really like?"

This might give them added incentive to also do the boring jobs.


I seriously doubt the people with the required skills would care about some abstract karma points.

Edited 2008-01-18 11:22 UTC

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RE[2]: Karma system
by leech on Fri 18th Jan 2008 13:45 in reply to "RE: Karma system"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

Perhaps they could introduce some sort of karma system, where each bug you fix adds to your score.


What is this? Kindergarten?


Yeah pretty much. Sadly, enough most people, especially some of the basement dwelling youth that are starting to get into open sourced programming, do have that kindergarten mentality.

This might give them added incentive to also do the boring jobs.


I seriously doubt the people with the required skills would care about some abstract karma points.


Actually there are a surprising amount of people who work on open source programs with the single-minded purpose of getting that "Look at what I did." feeling when they fix a bug or write and release a useful program to the world. That's kind of how the whole thing started, bragging rights on who could program better.

Edited 2008-01-18 14:05 UTC

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RE[2]: Karma system
by stestagg on Fri 18th Jan 2008 15:30 in reply to "RE: Karma system"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

I seriously doubt the people with the required skills would care about some abstract karma points.


You ever been on experts-exchange? That's a technical karma-driven system that consicely disproves your statement.

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RE[2]: Karma system
by snozzberry on Fri 18th Jan 2008 17:41 in reply to "RE: Karma system"
snozzberry Member since:
2005-11-14

Come on, this has NOTHING to do with open source. Same thing happen with closed source software. No company is going to spend resources fixing obscure bugs that affect a tiny fraction of their users.

Read up on Windows' patch database before making glib comments like that. There are patches inside XP to guarantee that DOS versions of SimCity still run because customers complained about it.

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RE: Karma system
by Beta on Fri 18th Jan 2008 12:19 in reply to "Karma system"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

Have you been to Ubuntu’s bug-tracker, launchpad.net recently?
It has karma just like that, and some of us do gain points from doing the boring jobs, such as translations ;)

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RE: Karma system
by Redeeman on Fri 18th Jan 2008 15:37 in reply to "Karma system"
Redeeman Member since:
2006-03-23

yeah, so with this karma system, develoeprs will be waiting with the fix, untill it provides suffecient number of points?

sweet system... lol

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RE[2]: Karma system
by bornagainenguin on Fri 18th Jan 2008 15:50 in reply to "RE: Karma system"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

yeah, so with this karma system, develoeprs will be waiting with the fix, untill it provides suffecient number of points?

sweet system... lol


Ouch... that is a factor that needs to be considered in any system like this.

Any ideas on how to work around that factor?

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Karma system
by Sabz on Sat 19th Jan 2008 01:18 in reply to "Karma system"
Sabz Member since:
2005-07-07

A problem with open source is that a lot of developers only cares about functionality that they use themselves. With unpaid contributers, this is understandable since they donate their own time. And we can't complain about how people use their own time :-)

Perhaps they could introduce some sort of karma system, where each bug you fix adds to your score. The number of points could be a combination of severity, age and complexity.

A trivial bug doesn't give many points when it is reported, but will accumulate extra points for each month it is not fixed.

This might give them added incentive to also do the boring jobs. When the bugs are not interesting, perhaps the extra recognition will help?

a lot do get paid for there work, but look at rpm5.org Jeff doesnt get paid for his work on rpm5

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