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Linux With Linux on the desktop going from a slow crawl to verging on an explosion, many have toiled with the question: How do we make this happen faster? A well-known Austin-based Linux Advocate thinks he has the answer.
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RE[3]: Simple answer
by backdoc on Thu 24th Jan 2008 00:27 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Simple answer"
backdoc
Member since:
2006-01-14

"I vehemently disagree with that statement. Allowing users to get comfortable with open source applications like FireFox, for example would make switching to an another OS seamless.


In theory, yes. But what actually happened is Firefox became popular as a Windows app. I would say between least 80 to 95% of Firefox's browser marketshare is shared between Windows and Mac OS X users. In fact, there has been some speculation that Mozilla might be treating the *nix version as a second-class citizen.
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I see Firefox's popularity on Windows as a good thing. "There has been some speculation" .... what does that mean? Are you saying that you bet someone out there feels that way?



"I think we need to agree on why people would move from Windows in the first place. My opinion is that it will be because they are fed up with Windows. There are some like me who just feel more comfortable having all of my tools at my fingertips (like bash, grep, find, ls, sed, awk and more). But, there aren't really that many people like me in that respect. Windows users don't know about these tools and consequently don't know what they are missing. And, they aren't going to move to switch for end user applications they can't get on Windows either.

The reason they will move is because the want the freedom that comes with Open Source OS's. They will get tired of the never ending BS from Microsoft. They will move *AWAY* from Windows in search of something else. They won't move *TOWARD* Linux for the applications.


If that were true then Linux might have a credible market score on the desktop by now, right? Instead, most people just complain and continue using Windows for the sake of their applications, while a minuscule few might leap over to Macintosh.
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I think you just validated my point. Making the applications cross platform prevents that.


I therefore believe only great exclusive applications is the only way the little guys can prove themselves worthy on well established/owned territory.

We'll just have to disagree on that one.

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RE[4]: Simple answer
by Xaero_Vincent on Thu 24th Jan 2008 00:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Simple answer"
Xaero_Vincent Member since:
2006-08-18

I see Firefox's popularity on Windows as a good thing. "There has been some speculation" .... what does that mean? Are you saying that you bet someone out there feels that way?


Yes, it is a good thing but it proves my point that people just embrace the software on their existing platform rather than try it on the other platforms it runs on.

The speculation/rumor occurred on Mozilla mailing-lists and Slashdot, Digg, and other news sites. Mozilla denied the accusations, of course. If this were true, it certainly isn't a trend I wish to see happen as a *nix user.

I think you just validated my point. Making the applications cross platform prevents that.


Cross-platform and FOSS have been largely ubiquitous for a long time now; at least in my opinion.

If anything, FOSS is becoming more Windows-specific because how some new FOSS projects target proprietary development tools and libraries on Windows, rather than the cross-platform options.

We'll just have to disagree on that one.


Regardless who agrees upon what... its evident that whatever is happening now is clearly not helping to bring Linux and other FOSS platforms to the masses.

Edited 2008-01-24 00:49 UTC

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RE[5]: Simple answer
by WereCatf on Thu 24th Jan 2008 00:50 in reply to "RE[4]: Simple answer"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Regardless who agrees upon what... its evident that whatever is happening now is clearly not helping to bring Linux and other FOSS platforms to the masses.

Even if that was true (which I disagree on) it atleast helps to bring FOSS applications to the masses. And that's what counts, especially if you are already locked in to a platform and can't switch. In that case it's even more crucial to be able to replace atleast partially the proprietary solutions, isn't it?

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