Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 23rd Jan 2008 22:07 UTC
Linux With Linux on the desktop going from a slow crawl to verging on an explosion, many have toiled with the question: How do we make this happen faster? A well-known Austin-based Linux Advocate thinks he has the answer.
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RE[4]: Say no to drugs...
by raver31 on Thu 24th Jan 2008 17:37 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Say no to drugs..."
raver31
Member since:
2005-07-06

I will tell you why people mod him down. Every discussion about free software, someone comes up with a completely valid working free solution, and Tomcat has to reply with the version he has to pay money for.

As if paying for things automatically makes them better.

I use Nero and I also use K3b... K3b outshines Nero on every option. So much so, that Nero seems amateurish in comparison.

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RE[5]: Say no to drugs...
by tomcat on Thu 24th Jan 2008 21:49 in reply to "RE[4]: Say no to drugs..."
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

I will tell you why people mod him down. Every discussion about free software, someone comes up with a completely valid working free solution, and Tomcat has to reply with the version he has to pay money for.

So what. You have your preferences, I have mine.

As if paying for things automatically makes them better.

Reread my comments. I never said that Nero was "better". It meets my needs. Which means that moving to another platform just to use an alternative is simply too costly.

I use Nero and I also use K3b... K3b outshines Nero on every option. So much so, that Nero seems amateurish in comparison.

I could really give a rat's ass which one is "better". You guys don't seem to grasp this reality: People aren't going to move to Linux simply because you think something else is superior. There are too many tangible (and intangible) costs associated with moving from one platform to another (software investments, training, existing data, software availability, yadda, yadda, yadda) -- but you seem to think that it's just a matter of throwing all that out the window and moving. No wonder you're spinning your wheels and can't figure out why.

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RE[6]: Say no to drugs...
by WereCatf on Thu 24th Jan 2008 21:59 in reply to "RE[5]: Say no to drugs..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

People aren't going to move to Linux simply because you think something else is superior. There are too many tangible (and intangible) costs associated with moving from one platform to another (software investments, training, existing data, software availability, yadda, yadda, yadda) -- but you seem to think that it's just a matter of throwing all that out the window and moving. No wonder you're spinning your wheels and can't figure out why.

This here I actually do agree on. Most average users already have a computer with Windows there so they will also have all their files there, mail, bookmarks, pictures and all that. It is actually quite a hurdle to move all that to a Linux partition in a format used by Linux apps (if it is even possible to convert everything). If there is a risk of losing any data I would rather suggest _against_ migrating rather than risk someone losing any of their personal files or data. Besides, replacing Windows with Linux is not something an average rather computer-illiterate person could do on his or her own, they'd need someone to guide them through that. If a new computer came with Linux preinstalled they would most likely use that without any more complaints than they have under Windows. The fact just is that most computers still come with Windows preinstalled and average computer-illiterate people won't even ask if it comes with Linux, either because they've never heard of it or because they rather use Windows cos they're familiar with it. That's just the way it is and IMHO it's pointless to complain about it. Rather just continue developing Linux forward and polishing the apps, the geeks and somewhat more experienced computer users will eventually pull more people to Linux anyway if they like it themselves.

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RE[6]: Say no to drugs...
by ichi on Fri 25th Jan 2008 00:06 in reply to "RE[5]: Say no to drugs..."
ichi Member since:
2007-03-06

I could really give a rat's ass which one is "better". You guys don't seem to grasp this reality: People aren't going to move to Linux simply because you think something else is superior. There are too many tangible (and intangible) costs associated with moving from one platform to another (software investments, training, existing data, software availability, yadda, yadda, yadda)


Well, with kde4 being released for windows you could use apps like k3b without switching platforms. If k3b on windows was better than nero I don't see why you wouldn't consider using it.

Anyway while it's true that moving to a different platform implies certain costs, those are for the most part short-term costs that might (or not) be outweighted by the mid and long-term savings.

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