Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Wed 23rd Jan 2008 22:08 UTC
The KDE desktop environment is going cross-platform with support for the Windows and Mac OS X operating systems. In addition to porting the core KDE libraries and applications, developers are also porting popular KDE-based software like the Amarok audio player and the KOffice productivity suite.
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RE[8]: Cross Platform
by setec_astronomy on Fri 25th Jan 2008 12:11
in reply to "RE[7]: Cross Platform"
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First of all, thanks for your elaborated reply.
don't believe this will be the case for many. Most users will have to deal with a single format only, i.e. PDF and they typically have the Acrobat Reader installed.
If ocular wanted to be a serious competitor, the rendering quality of poppler would have to be increased dramatically. Quite unfortunately it still fails for non-trivial layouts, which is probably one of the reasons, why the documentation for Scribus, the popular qt-based Free DTP programme, recommend Acroread for use with Scribus.
If ocular wanted to be a serious competitor, the rendering quality of poppler would have to be increased dramatically. Quite unfortunately it still fails for non-trivial layouts, which is probably one of the reasons, why the documentation for Scribus, the popular qt-based Free DTP programme, recommend Acroread for use with Scribus.
Hm, I guess the typical end users I know are a different subset of the total user base then, since they tend to consume deja vu, chm (ebooks) and "office format" files (predominately doc/xls but increasingly odf too) quite often. It is probably a matter of taste, but having only one application to handle all/most of this formats instead of having to install and maintain distinct applications seems a good idea to me. And while Acrobat Reader is of course the reference implementation for rendering PDF, I was not aware of serious problems in libpoppler. Then again, I may have been lucky so far.
Nvu is dead, sure. I understand that its unofficial successor KompoZer ( http://www.kompozer.org ) is still alive. However, Quanta is something completely different
Is it possible, that the correct URL for kompozer is
http://www.kompozer.net/
instead? In any case, thank you for bringing this app to my attention, I was not aware of its existence and will probably give it a spin. Although Quantas WYSIWY(probably)WG capabilities are limited, I still consider Quanta Plus to be a good replacement for Nvu, given the user knows at least the basics of XHTM / CSS editing especially when it comes to developing dynamic web pages with languages like PHP, Python or Ruby. Different strokes for different folks, and so on.
There is a downloadable alpha of OpenOffice for Quartz/Aqua. I understand that KOffice 2 is pretty much alpha, too.
Good for Non-X11 Apple users then. According to my last information, Koffice targets May 1st 2008 as release date, although I'm not sure whether all programs will work properly on all targeted platforms by then. I was not able to find an outline with similar details in the case of OpenOffice.org for Aqua, besides the reported summer 2008 date for the 3.0 release. Any pointers to such information would be greatly appreciated!
Besides the fact that koffice follows different philosophies than OOo in many areas (e.g. frame based wordprocessor vs. "classical" approach, default SQLite database in kexi vs. compressed directory XML files, no pixel editor with compareable capabilities in OOo, etc ) and should therefore be able to win over other classes of users as OOo.org, this is also a poster child example of the importance of treating cross plattform-ness not as an afterthought.
EDIT: fixed mangled quotation tag.
Edited 2008-01-25 12:13 UTC
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- A centralised document viewing app like Okular would be a godsend to have on MS Windows platforms at least.
I'm not familiar with the status of running evince on MS Windows, but feature wise, Okular looks more useful (at least to me).
I don't believe this will be the case for many. Most users will have to deal with a single format only, i.e. PDF and they typically have the Acrobat Reader installed.
If ocular wanted to be a serious competitor, the rendering quality of poppler would have to be increased dramatically. Quite unfortunately it still fails for non-trivial layouts, which is probably one of the reasons, why the documentation for Scribus, the popular qt-based Free DTP programme, recommend Acroread for use with Scribus.
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- Given that the NVu project status seems to be currently "comatose", Quanta Plus *will* imho be the best dedicated (as in : not Eclipse et al) libre / gratis Web IDE.
Nvu is dead, sure. I understand that its unofficial successor KompoZer ( http://www.kompozer.org ) is still alive. However, Quanta is something completely different.
There is a downloadable alpha of OpenOffice for Quartz/Aqua. I understand that KOffice 2 is pretty much alpha, too.