Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th Jan 2008 21:41 UTC
Windows "The wait is nearly over for the first service pack for Windows Vista, according to sources close to Microsoft. Microsoft has said the highly anticipated service pack would be out in the first quarter of this year, but some say it could be available in the next few weeks, more than a month before the quarter ends on March 31." That's what PCWorld says anyway, BetaNews thinks it will arrive in March. A new build has been released, in any case.
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Why it won't help
by hraq on Sun 27th Jan 2008 07:16 UTC
hraq
Member since:
2005-07-06

Pushing SP1 is just like pushing Windows vista release.
This won't help make IT staff use it, because even though vista is more immune to infections than patched XP with SP2and IE7 and an Antivirus software, windows vista remains resource hog. And it interferes with productivity, add to that incompatiblity of some web sites with IE7 and alot of Applications incompatibility add to that the huge amount of money you need to pay to run vista smoothly, and also from administrative point of view alot of changes happened to the worse (deeply nested windows). And to turbid your day, the GUI is now even more severly confusing and things are not in the same places it used to be (eg: who said a visible menubar is a bad idea? why sould I press Alt to bring it back?!)
All of these factors makes switching to another platform is even acceptable. Like OSX with its very successful subversions that don't hurt but please its customers.
If MS doesn't do these, then Vista would fail:

1. Speed up the OS (turn off desktop composition, indexing or other demanding services that are unnecessary).
2. Improve compatiblity with applications.
3. Fix Its IE and Windows Explorer from Crashes and weired behaviors.
4. Check networking stack for more performance and bug fixes
5. improve startup time like they promised before.
6. remove the black screen behind UAC windows which scares alot of people; You can copy Apples method.
7. Fix Printers unexplained disconnections and wireless unexplained inconsistancies because these are very important to buisnesses.
8. Do other more and more and more things.

RE: Why it won't help
by Fergy on Sun 27th Jan 2008 10:59 in reply to "Why it won't help"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

"1. Speed up the OS (turn off desktop composition, indexing or other demanding services that are unnecessary)."
You can already turn of desktop composition and it should make your computer faster not slower. It just uses a little more memory(60MB)
"2. Improve compatiblity with applications."
MS has probably done all it can do. It's now time for the application developers to make their own programs compatible with Vista.
"3. Fix Its IE and Windows Explorer from Crashes and weired behaviors."
Personally I haven't had any weird crashes with Explorer and who uses IE7 anyway?

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RE: Why it won't help
by casuto on Sun 27th Jan 2008 15:16 in reply to "Why it won't help"
casuto Member since:
2007-02-27

If MS doesn't do these, then Vista would fail: 1. Speed up the OS (turn off desktop composition, indexing or other demanding services that are unnecessary).


desktop composition is here in order to have a free-glich redraw of windows and offers off-loading CPU and better responsiveness.
Indexing service runs in low I/O priority and so it doesn't affect the performances of other user's activities.


2. Improve compatiblity with applications.

Application should be compatible with the OS, not the OS with applications. And by the way, Microsoft fixed a lot of incompatibility of poorly written 3rd parties applications: in fact Vista has a built-in application compatibility database and service that is updated via Windows Update and this service adjusts the compatibility when an user installs or run a well known incompatible application.


3. Fix Its IE and Windows Explorer from Crashes and weired behaviors.

crashes are caused by poorly written 3rd parties browser extensions, poorly written 3rd parties shell extensions. It's not a Microsoft fault.


4. Check networking stack for more performance and bug fixes


my internet connection is faster in Vista than XP. Internet browsing is smoother in Vista than XP.


5. improve startup time like they promised before.


my Vista startup time is less than 60 seconds. There's nothing to improve. Use the hybrid sleep function and your system will start-up in less than 5 seconds!


6. remove the black screen behind UAC windows which scares alot of people


this is called secure desktop, it protects the authentication window from shatter attacks.

Edited 2008-01-27 15:32 UTC

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