Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 30th Jan 2008 23:23 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems "After the incredible success of the Asus Eee PC, other manufacturers are ready to get their piece of the pie. This means that within the next few months we are going to see this segment go from just two devices - the Eee PC and the Nanobook (which has yet to come out in the U.S. but which we have been hearing about for some time) - to many more." Another article on the Eee says: "Five of the 10 best-selling notebooks, including the top three models this weekend do not run Windows or Mac OS X. In fact, they are different models of the same diminutive notebook the Asus Eee PC - that runs on Linux."
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Call me skeptical...
by tomcat on Thu 31st Jan 2008 08:27 UTC
tomcat
Member since:
2006-01-06

The ultra-portable market has already exploded, and it will continue to be "dominated" by cell phones and mobile apps. Trying to draw artificial distinctions between ultra-portables and cell-phones is silly. The price point is the same, and the capabilities are nearly identical; in fact, cell-phones have the additional advantage of seamless connectivity.

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RE: Call me skeptical...
by ichi on Thu 31st Jan 2008 08:48 in reply to "Call me skeptical..."
ichi Member since:
2007-03-06

The distinction is not artificial: cell phones suck for working. Trying to write a document is a PITA.

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RE: Call me skeptical...
by burnttoy on Thu 31st Jan 2008 12:03 in reply to "Call me skeptical..."
burnttoy Member since:
2006-07-28

I modded you up because you have a point - "Seamless connectivity" (well, except when I take the tube to/from work). The "trick" is to add this to the ultra-mobile shirely? The only issue I can see is that holding an EEE to your ear, as you would normally operate a phone, is somewhat inpractical.

There are no artifical distinction between mobile and ultraportable devices. The distinctions between them are very real. 1 - The form factor and 2 - battery life - days or weeks for a mobile - hours for an ultraportable.

Operating my Crackberry is very much unlike operating an ultraportable - maybe the exception being the Sony models. My Crackberry (sic) is held in my hands and operated by my thumbs. Even the EEE is a laptop/desktop device.

An aside, why on earth don't mobile phones have L & R keys like my GBA and DS? Here's a free tip for any mobile designers out there - implement L & R and use them as shift keys _PLEASE_!

Edited 2008-01-31 12:04 UTC

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RE: Call me skeptical...
by sbergman27 on Thu 31st Jan 2008 13:04 in reply to "Call me skeptical..."
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Trying to draw artificial distinctions between ultra-portables and cell-phones is silly.


Tomcat is *really* grasping at straws, here.

Here is a high end cell phone:

http://tinyurl.com/2xn3tz

And here is an ultramobile PC:

http://tinyurl.com/2sbmtp

That anyone would try to claim that drawing a distinction between these very different devices is "silly" is simply unbelievable. In fact, it seems to me that one would have to have strong ulterior motives for making such a bizarre claim, and no more credible alternative to pursue.

I'd be embarrassed if I were the one driven to make it.

Edited 2008-01-31 13:06 UTC

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RE: Call me skeptical...
by SReilly on Thu 31st Jan 2008 13:42 in reply to "Call me skeptical..."
SReilly Member since:
2006-12-28

Trying to draw artificial distinctions between ultra-portables and cell-phones is silly.


Just looking at the form factor of those two very different types of devices that you mention, the first thing that comes to mind is that you would have to be blind to be able to class both devices in the same category.

Way to go attempting not to back peddle. ;-p

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v RE[2]: Call me skeptical...
by tomcat on Fri 1st Feb 2008 22:07 in reply to "RE: Call me skeptical..."
RE: Call me skeptical...
by dagw on Thu 31st Jan 2008 16:38 in reply to "Call me skeptical..."
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

There are a few distinctions that are not so silly. One big one is apps. My ultra portable laptop is capable of running the same apps (and OS) as my desktop, making transfering work from one to the other trivial.

Another is size and battery life. I wouldn't want a phone big enough to have a useable keyboard or powerful enough to run my desktop apps. I want my phone to be small enough to live unnoticed in my pocket and 'weak' enough to be on and opperating for days without charging.

As to seamless connectivity, as long as both your phone and your laptop have bluetooth they both have seamless connectivity. Secondly having features that rely on data connectivity to work is not a great idea. Have you ever checked how much your carrier charges to connect to the internet via 3G from a foreign country. If your carrier is anything like mine, you'll know it's prohibitivly expensive (I realize this is more of a problem in Europe than in the US).

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RE: Call me skeptical...
by archiesteel on Thu 31st Jan 2008 17:41 in reply to "Call me skeptical..."
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

Ah, the lengths you'll go to in order to avoid admitting the EeePC is indeed a success...

Why don't you just drop the anti-Linux bias and agree that there's room enough for everyone to be successful, mmh?

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