Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 30th Jan 2008 22:57 UTC, submitted by irbis
Opera Software "Tabs. Mouse gestures. User-agent switcher. Dedicated transfer window. Pop-up blocking and javascript abuse filtering. Integrated search box. Page zoom. Session saver. Chew on those features. We'll be coming back to them."
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How I would improve Opera
by Coxy on Thu 31st Jan 2008 12:16 UTC
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- Get rid of the irc chat crap and add intergration for MSN, yahoo etc. Otherwise get rid of it... only nerds use irc. Or even understand what you have to type to connect to a room.

Normal people want to chat with their friends, not go into a virtual chat room where people they don't no never say anything and all you ever see on the screen is that someone joined and then left the room.

- Get rid of the opera bookmarks and intergrate into opera, but mask everything so that it lokks like opera's bookmarks.

- Rename widgits to something people can understand. Call it add-ons, extensions, or plugins. Yeah... every one reply and say plugins aren't extensions and extensions aren't widgits... you may be right, but to a normal user who doesn't worship computers and just wants to use the internet I bet that they couldn't care, and of the four, widgits would be the one least understood by people.

- Get rid of M2, most people now just use webmail, so intergrate webmail into the browser through the already existing email panel button. Then collect all the contacts from all web mail accounts and show them in the opera contacts panel

- At the moment the panel is seperated by a vertical line from the panel buttons, but it looks like it's connected to the active tab's web page. Change it so that the division is between the panel and the web page.

Edited 2008-01-31 12:19 UTC

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RE: How I would improve Opera
by Liquidator on Thu 31st Jan 2008 13:36 in reply to "How I would improve Opera"
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If you get rid of all that, Opera will not be Opera anymore, and I might use Seamonkey instead, LOL.

I don't understand why using Delicious instead of the synced bookmarks. Synced bookmarks are really nice IMO.

I don't know why removing the IRC client. I don't use it because I don't chat but it doesn't hurt to have it. Granted that integration with commercial chat services such as MSN, ICQ, AIM, Jabber and Gmail would be nice for some people.

Widgets aren't extensions. They really *are* widgets, they are for your desktop, not for your browser. See:

You're asking to remove M2 but... Many people use Opera mainly for M2 (it's my case). M2 is an excellent email client. I use webmail when I'm not at home or at work but a webmail will never be as fast as a desktop email client. I really can't imagine Opera without M2, that would be terrible...

One of Opera's advantages is the wealth of features. If you remove these features, you get...Mosaic.

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RE[2]: How I would improve Opera
by Coxy on Thu 31st Jan 2008 14:08 in reply to "RE: How I would improve Opera"
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I appreciate your points, and maybe if Opera has it's own online bookmarks then maybe isn't required, but whether widgits are different from extensions, addons etc is just semantics.

Take a poll of your non-web designer, non-os geek friends:

Which three options below are things that extend a computer programmes functionality or adds new features?

A: Extensions
B: Add-ons
C: Plug-ins
D: Widgits

I bet everyone would reply a, b, c

Pretty much everyone has heard of a, b or c in one form or another in at least one computer programme that they use. The words themselves give you an idea of what they do (with maybe plug-ins giving the list hint out of options a, b and c). D would give no one that doesn't use computers 24 / 7 an idea of what they do. Maybe, someone might associate it with the buttons and such that make up a GUI, but I'm certain if a national newspaper in the UK polled people as to the meaning of widgit, most people would say it's the thing you get in the bottom of a can of beer that produces a head when you pour it in a glass.

Why try and make problems for yourself? There are existing terms that would be clear for users. Have you ever tried a peice of software that has a sort of Wizard to help people accomplish tasks? Some programmers (who probably play RPGs) refuse to use common terms that are understood by most users thanks to wide spread use... instead of a wizard they create a Druid, a Shaman or a Priest to guide his programmes users through completeing some action (I even saw one once that called wizards a Mage... why make square wheels for your applications when existing round ones would make the ride much smoother for the user?). Opera calling extensions/add-ons/plug-ins widgits is no different and just as annoying. While I'm on the subject, rename the 'Wand'...

Edited 2008-01-31 14:14 UTC

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