Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 2nd Feb 2008 22:29 UTC, submitted by Nemilar
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "Its official release is just under three months away, and Ubuntu 8.04, or Hardy Heron, promises some great improvements over the already user-friendly Ubuntu 7.10 (also known as Gusty Gibbon). This is a look at the fourth Alpha release of Hardy; including many of the applications that are now included by default and the major changes that will improve stability and usability. Among these are the addition of Firefox 3 and Remote Desktop on the applications side, and a new method for systems control known as Policy Kit, which enables the administrator to unlock certain functions for normal users."
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RE[2]: Not impressed
by segedunum on Sun 3rd Feb 2008 01:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Not impressed"
segedunum
Member since:
2005-07-06

Are there any software choices that would impress you?


A summary from the article:

Hardy installs by default with a Remote Desktop utility, allowing users to connect to your X session either locally or over the web.

VNC for remote desktop? Over the web? Ughhhhhh. If you want to really impress me, use something that does remote desktop so well you can't even tell the difference between local and remote, even over restricted bandwidth. Start using NX for remote desktop management and terminal services. It even uses SSH transparently, and you can pipe individual applications to boot.

This is a great addition, as it will make remote technical support far easier for both parties. Like sshd, I expect that it will quickly become a necessary accessory to all Linux distributions.

Over the web, on most peoples' broadband? I highly doubt it. VNC is a long way from even the performance of RDP, and it might be a start if you actually started using SSH for security.

Brasero is the new default burning program for Ubuntu. Its interface is sleek and easy to use, and certainly gives k3b a run for its money.

Alternatively, you could just use the best application, which is K3B.

New in Ubuntu 8.04 is the Policy Kit, which allows the user to set certain functions as "unlocked," allowing the use of selected administrative tools as a normal user.

I seem to remember OS X being able to do this. What would impress me is being able to have a universal set of options that can be set centrally.

Another administration improvement is the Run-As dialog which prompts the user for credentials when asking to run a program as another user

Which has been in KDE and Windows forever, and which Gnome still refuses to include itself.

But most impressive is the Authorizations panel, which allows complete control over what system functions each user is able to have.

Good, but this needs to be set centrally over a network for it to be of any use.

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RE[3]: Not impressed
by Ben Jao Ming on Sun 3rd Feb 2008 13:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Not impressed"
Ben Jao Ming Member since:
2005-07-26

A summary from the article:

Hardy installs by default with a Remote Desktop utility, allowing users to connect to your X session either locally or over the web.

VNC for remote desktop? Over the web? Ughhhhhh. If you want to really impress me, use something that does remote desktop so well you can't even tell the difference between local and remote, even over restricted bandwidth. Start using NX for remote desktop management and terminal services. It even uses SSH transparently, and you can pipe individual applications to boot.


I had the same thought. But I think they need to do some extra fiddling with the implementation to make it not fsck up with the compiz/aiglx thing. I'm not sure, but I just imagine that VLC is a lot easier to implement.

Besides, you can't have NX on a running session. That means you can't just share your current desktop like the example tells.. so there's no remore support and such with NX.

And just for the record... VLC runs pretty fine over broadband. But how it handles a running compiz-session... I don't know.

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RE[4]: Not impressed
by Silvia Regis on Sun 3rd Feb 2008 20:41 in reply to "RE[3]: Not impressed"
Silvia Regis Member since:
2008-02-03

> Besides, you can't have NX on a running session. That means you
> can't just share your current desktop like the example tells..
> so there's no remore support and such with NX.

Please, check your facts. NX does that also.

> And just for the record... VLC runs pretty fine over broadband.

Just for the record, VNC is slow also on a LAN.

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