Linked by Adam S on Mon 11th Feb 2008 22:09 UTC, submitted by SK8T
Mac OS X Today, Apple has released the much anticipated Mac OS X 10.5.2. The hefty combo update weighs in at almost 350MB, but it can also be downloaded via Software Update. The updates includes general operating system improvements that enhance the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac, as well as imrpoved Back to My Mac support, new view for Dock based folders, and much more.
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RE: Finally
by optimusg4 on Mon 11th Feb 2008 22:57 UTC in reply to "Finally"
optimusg4
Member since:
2005-07-06

I know I will get modded down for this comment, but perhaps Leopard wasn't ready when it was released? I still have yet to upgrade to the OS because of reports found on the web. Maybe this weekend I'll upgrade.

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RE[2]: Finally
by SlackerJack on Mon 11th Feb 2008 23:21 in reply to "RE: Finally"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

It was, it's just people didn't like some of the new stuff, from what I've seen they addressed that now.

Apple took away their 2d dock(needed a hack to get it back), all hell broke lose just on that.

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RE[3]: Finally
by s_groening on Tue 12th Feb 2008 12:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Finally"
s_groening Member since:
2005-12-13

It's nice for someone to make it sound so simple!

Yet, I have myself encountered an issue where a patch (Login & Keychain Update 1.0) for a known bug that caused users to be unable to log in to their Mac after an upgrade install was released before the 10.5.1 update, but actually wasn't included in the 10.5.1 update, leaving me going through all of Apple's support pages to find a solution that didn't work, which caused me to reinstall everything, when I found out that this issue occurred after several log ins and a complete update to 10.5.1 + a security update ...

Along with these three little fellows:
* 306508 Mac OS X 10.5: Can't log in to account that has no password
* 306965 Mac OS X 10.5, iMac (Mid 2007): Stuck in a "loop" at the login window after upgrading to Leopard
* 306876 Mac OS X 10.5: Administrator user changes to standard

These are things that actually caused problems for users, the more superficial stuff was easily resolved through Terminal commands and hints on the 'net ...

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RE[2]: Finally
by google_ninja on Mon 11th Feb 2008 23:26 in reply to "RE: Finally"
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2006-02-05

if a brand new technology product gets released and you decide to use it in the first 6 months - 1 year, you should consider yourself an early adopter. That means that you should expect odd bugs until the product gets the kinks worked out. The bigger the release, the more of the issues need to get fixed, and leopard was a really big release.

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RE[3]: Finally
by XIII on Tue 12th Feb 2008 11:44 in reply to "RE[2]: Finally"
XIII Member since:
2006-06-20

Big on eyecandy yeah.
Meanwhile logging on to a windows domain is still slow as ... whereas it was lightning fast in Tiger.

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RE[2]: Finally
by kaiwai on Tue 12th Feb 2008 00:25 in reply to "RE: Finally"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Its definitely ready for general consumption; I only upgraded because it was a free upgrade through the uptodate programme which Apple runs. Not only is there 10.5.2 but also a graphics update. Not to put a too fine a point on it; it simply rocks ;) This is what I would say is the equivalent in the Windows world of SP2 to Windows XP (or more recently, SP1 to Windows Vista).

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RE[2]: Finally
by bousozoku on Tue 12th Feb 2008 07:13 in reply to "RE: Finally"
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2006-01-23

I know I will get modded down for this comment, but perhaps Leopard wasn't ready when it was released? I still have yet to upgrade to the OS because of reports found on the web. Maybe this weekend I'll upgrade.


You're right and Leopard still isn't ready. This latest upgrade puts my machine at half speed from what it was prior to the update. That makes it a lot slower than it was on 10.4.10. I remember that we're supposed to get things working properly first and then, speed them up but this is ridiculous.

Perhaps, next time, they'll get it right. It seems with every release, we have to wait until the x.x.3 or x.x.4 uodate before everything works properly. Sad, that.

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RE[2]: Finally
by KugelKurt on Tue 12th Feb 2008 08:15 in reply to "RE: Finally"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

Everybody should know what a dot-Oh release is. Even big companies with huge development budget can't beta test a piece of software that much that there won't be any problems for 10 million users.
IMO it's no big deal when a dot-Oh release has problems as long as they get fixed in a timely fashion.
It's not like Vista where it took Microsoft over a year to develop the first Service Pack and now they are even telling their users that, while SP1 is ready, they won't get it until March!
Leopard is a only 3.5 months and just received the second big update.

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RE[3]: Finally
by gsquid on Tue 12th Feb 2008 08:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Finally"
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2008-02-12

Do you believe it is OK for a software company to knowingly release an unfinished and defective product, take people's money, and fix the product in their own sweet time?

If so, do you accept this kind of behavior from any other industry?

Edited 2008-02-12 08:45 UTC

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RE[3]: Finally
by optimusg4 on Wed 13th Feb 2008 02:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Finally"
optimusg4 Member since:
2005-07-06

Everybody should know what a dot-Oh release is. Even big companies with huge development budget can't beta test a piece of software that much that there won't be any problems for 10 million users.
IMO it's no big deal when a dot-Oh release has problems as long as they get fixed in a timely fashion.
It's not like Vista where it took Microsoft over a year to develop the first Service Pack and now they are even telling their users that, while SP1 is ready, they won't get it until March!
Leopard is a only 3.5 months and just received the second big update.


What bugs me most though is that almost immediately after release, Apple made 10.5.1 available on retail discs. Makes me wonder about Leopard. Nothing against Apple, but this whole "Make fun of Windows for delays so we better not slip" is getting annoying.

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