"Free/Open Source software has grown considerably from its roots in the UNIX tradition of the command line interface and early X Windows-based graphical environments. As desktop use has increased concurrently with advances in desktop development, serious user interface and experience issues have arisen. Celeste Lyn Paul of User Centered Design, Inc. and the KDE Project presented, 'A Quick and Dirty Intro to User Centered Design in Open Source Development', Saturday at SCaLE 6X. Her talk emphasized the importance of including designers in the development process."
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Member since:2005-08-11
My comment had nothing to do with her being a woman, or even a cute woman, but thanks for bringing it down to the lowest common denominator. You gave your opinion, I gave mine, and that is all that's to it. I am not defending her without need, I was defending her right to make choices, without being second guessed by people who have no idea why she made that choice.
Member since:2007-12-26
Well actually I apologize for that women stuff, it had, I admit, nothing to do with it. Fact still is that you defend her without any need because I was not attacking her at all. I merely made my opinion about a particular program. Again, please continue to use the software that you seem fit, as I continue my opinion about "buzz-software". (though I shall refrain from commenting off-topic and uninteresting opinions in the future 
Edited 2008-02-12 14:14 UTC
Member since:2005-08-18
Member since:2007-12-26
No, I don't know anything and that is why I sad that I thought it. But according to the site it is a new concept, and please don't tell me designing a good application before was not possible.
Judging the programs software it is analogue to the developers UML. For which, as a professional programmer, I do have a grounded opinion formed after a lot own experience.
Designing is something creative, which, I >think< is a subject that should not be outsourced to a piece of software, because the end product will be restricted by the restrictions of that particularly software. Which is a well-founded opinion that can even by made by non-designers.
if everybody limited his/her opinions to his/her expertise, it would be very, very quiet. ( Although it would be an improvement I'll admit. )
And to steer this conversation on-topic:
I do agree with the interview. I was just thinking about it after reading the InkSeine article. The opensource community has tons of innovating technical achievements. But in the area of user visible design there are as far as I know, no innovations made. In that area they mostly follow there proprietary colleague's.
My guess to the reason of this is that design has more to do with art and creativity. It is hard to work via the internet with people you don't know, each having there own ideas.
I creative design is a sacred part of the designer, not something he wants to see changed by some-one with another idea. Which is something that will surely happen seeing as that creative ideas are so divers. That scares designers away.
Edited 2008-02-12 15:03 UTC
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2007-12-26
The first three words and the last sentence make it clear that I'm not telling anybody what they ought to use. For some reason if there is an article about a good looking lady, people defend the person without a need. I don't care what she uses. I just think that this is one of those software pieces people get dependent on without a real need. But if some-one is happy with it, by all means continue.
I have a strong personal opinion on that matter. I think learning a special language or program to make a non working prototype of something that still has to be developed is a waste of time. Same goes for UML. Instead of turning a problem into code, it becomes.. turning a problem into a abstract problem using objects or what might not so it can be turned into code. In my opinion a useless step. But I don't care about people taking that step.