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RE[2]: No more bankruptcy protection?
by elsewhere on Fri 15th Feb 2008 00:59
in reply to "RE: No more bankruptcy protection?"
Basically when a company files for bankruptcy protection, anyone that has any monetary interest in that company becomes a creditor (including the stockholders).
Sort of. There's a big difference between secured and unsecured creditors.
At the end of the day, the companies assets are distributed among the secured creditors, and whatever is left over gets divied among the unsecured ones.
SCO's common stock is not secured, so the shareholders would most likely have nothing left to show after the dissolution of the company.
This is why Novell was pushing to court to annex funds from SCO prior to allowing them to file chapter 11; a court order doesn't make them a secured creditor, and they didn't want to see the cash that SCO still had on hand being divied up to anyone else.
It still begs the question, though, of what assets, intangible or not, that SCO is holding and would encourage an investment of this sort. I can't believe that whatever is left of their customer base is worth that much as an acquisition, and I think the courts have nullified SCO's IP claims. Anybody investing in SCO at this point is holding out that they may still have legal fuel left to sue the world. Or somebody is hoping optimistically that IBM will relent and just buyout SCO to make the lawsuit go away, which is unlikely at this point. It's curious.
My guess is that the $100M is primarily being used to payoff some creditors - possibly for amounts quite a bit smaller than was owed (this is usually part of the negotiations). This will allow SCO to emerge without fear of being sued and liquidated into oblivion by their remaining creditors.
I don't think SCO had that much in outstanding debt/liability, they could easily pay down their debt, even with Novell and their law firm, and still have cash left over. So something fishy is going on here.
It can be different for any scenario - in the end, SCO will be privately held, and the smaller stockholders will get the biggest shaft.
Well, that is certainly true, except that all stockholders will probably get the biggest shaft. The smart ones dumped it long ago, anyways, and the execs have either cashed out or probably cut side deals prior to this financing being arranged.
RE[3]: No more bankruptcy protection?
by Bobthearch on Fri 15th Feb 2008 17:11
in reply to "RE[2]: No more bankruptcy protection?"
Just to clarify, if a company is being dissolved, it ceases to exist. Finished forever. The assets are sold off and the proceeds go to creditors. Common shareholders get nothing, unless there is a surplus remaining after all creditor claims are settled (very unlikely).
But SCO isn't being dissolved, it's merely in bancrupcy. So what will happen with the SCO stock? I think it'll probably be cancelled and a new stock will be issued when the company emerges from bancrupcy.
RE[3]: No more bankruptcy protection?
by glarepate on Mon 18th Feb 2008 15:35
in reply to "RE[2]: No more bankruptcy protection?"
a court order doesn't make them a secured creditor
This is true.
However SCO has been convicted of converting Novell's funds to their own use. This makes them criminally liable. The hearing on April 29th is to determine the amount that they are liable for. That does make them a secured creditor in the anount determined once the trial that they had put on hold resumes. Since the money was acquired through criminal means Novell gets paid BEFORE the other creditors.
Edited 2008-02-18 15:40 UTC





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Basically when a company files for bankruptcy protection, anyone that has any monetary interest in that company becomes a creditor (including the stockholders).
While in bankruptcy protection, these creditors are basically involved in negotiations with the court and the company to come to an agreement on how the company will emerge from bankruptcy. In many cases, the biggest creditors end up becoming partial owners of the company based on the amount they are owed - other times they simply remain a creditor once the company emerges.
My guess is that the $100M is primarily being used to payoff some creditors - possibly for amounts quite a bit smaller than was owed (this is usually part of the negotiations). This will allow SCO to emerge without fear of being sued and liquidated into oblivion by their remaining creditors.
It can be different for any scenario - in the end, SCO will be privately held, and the smaller stockholders will get the biggest shaft.
edit: clarification
Edited 2008-02-14 21:54 UTC