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RE[3]: Unusable. Unready.
by elsewhere on Mon 18th Feb 2008 03:58
in reply to "RE[2]: Unusable. Unready."
"Really, it's not that bad.
uhmmm...
It doesn't crash.
Yes it does. Even 3.5.x does. I still see way too much of even the 3.5 crash dialog. Konqueror is a particularly egregious offender.
It doesn't flake out.
Yes it does.
"
Then you're using the wrong distro. I haven't had a crash in KDE 4.x with openSUSE, with KDE4 apps or KDE3.
Seriously, when Gnome 1.0 and 2.0 were released, they needed some love to become loveable. But they were usable, mostly, and bugs were quickly addressed. Look where they led to.
If you've got serious problems with KDE4, then please report the bugs, otherwise you're not helping the situation.
"It doesn't eat your children.
I cannot comment on this since I have none. I didn't even have any before I tested KDE4. Are you claiming that you had children before your KDE4 adventure, and that they remain uneaten at this moment? ;-) "
I didn't before KDE4, but they were brought in as package dependencies... Damned RPM
RE[4]: Unusable. Unready.
by sbergman27 on Mon 18th Feb 2008 04:11
in reply to "RE[3]: Unusable. Unready."
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Then you're using the wrong distro.
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I know, I know! It's obviously a problem with my configuration. On this machine and that. And on this distro and that.
And if the kids only showed up *after* your KDE4 installation... have you checked that they are signed with the proper keys? ;-)
RE[4]: Unusable. Unready.
by Anonymous Penguin on Mon 18th Feb 2008 05:01
in reply to "RE[3]: Unusable. Unready."
RE[3]: Unusable. Unready.
by segedunum on Mon 18th Feb 2008 09:47
in reply to "RE[2]: Unusable. Unready."
hmmm...
Ummmmmmmmmm. Yer, there's lots of useful information people can take out of that comment.
Yes it does. Even 3.5.x does. I still see way too much of even the 3.5 crash dialog. Konqueror is a particularly egregious offender.
Sadly, saying this doesn't make any of it true, nor does it give you any credibility. Without specifics, descriptions and backtraces this is about as useful as your comments normally are.
In my experience, I very rarely if ever see the crash dialogue in 3.5, Konqueror as a file manager has never crashed for me and the only time it has choked is as a web browser with some JavaScript - as Firefox has on occasions. So what? Oh, and I also use Amarok with my music on a NFS fileshare, and that sometimes hangs for a while. That's about it.
"It doesn't flake out.
Yes it does. "
Based on............what? You know what the current state and functionality of KDE 4 is, and so does everyone else. We should all know why that's the case by now, and where things are heading. I've used KDE 4, but I don't use it as my main Linux desktop at the moment.
Functionally, it's by no means complete, but trying to create this impression of extreme instability and making the usual and predictable comebacks about children eating is pretty sad really, isn't it? If you're worried about something, just say come out and say it.
RE[4]: Unusable. Unready.
by superstoned on Mon 18th Feb 2008 10:04
in reply to "RE[3]: Unusable. Unready."
RE[4]: Unusable. Unready.
by yahya on Tue 19th Feb 2008 09:23
in reply to "RE[3]: Unusable. Unready."
" hmmm...
Ummmmmmmmmm. Yer, there's lots of useful information people can take out of that comment.
Yes it does. Even 3.5.x does. I still see way too much of even the 3.5 crash dialog. Konqueror is a particularly egregious offender.
Sadly, saying this doesn't make any of it true, nor does it give you any credibility. Without specifics, descriptions and backtraces this is about as useful as your comments normally are. "
You almost certainly wouldn't want people to start posting backtraces to the osnews comment system, would you?







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uhmmm...
Yes it does. Even 3.5.x does. I still see way too much of even the 3.5 crash dialog. Konqueror is a particularly egregious offender.
Yes it does.
I cannot comment on this since I have none. I didn't even have any before I tested KDE4. Are you claiming that you had children before your KDE4 adventure, and that they remain uneaten at this moment? ;-)