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FreeBSD "This report covers FreeBSD related projects between October and December 2007. AsiaBSDCon 2008 is approaching and will be held at the Tokyo University of Science in Tokyo, Japan on the 27th - 30th of March 2008. The FreeBSD Foundation has released a Newsletter detailing their activities over the past few months. FreeBSD 7.0 is nearing release and the 2nd Release Canidate is ready for testing and is available for download now."
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RE: XEN
by Don T. Bothers on Tue 19th Feb 2008 15:44 UTC in reply to "XEN"
Don T. Bothers
Member since:
2006-03-15

I was pretty excited about virtualization too but now all I want in FreeBSD is very strong jails features like Solaris has with zones. When I like at the fact that Linux has several full virtualization solutions, that Sun is developing their own technology, that Microsoft is developing their own technology, that Xen is now owned by Citrix, that VMWare is still going their own proprietary route, and that this is just scratching the surface, I really scratch my head and wonder how am I going to support all these technologies and how exactly are all these native virtualization technologies going to work with each other. I'm getting too old to bother. Right now, I will stick with VMWare and when the dust settles, I think that will be a good time for FreeBSD to worry about what technology to exactly support and what technology I should learn.

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RE[2]: XEN
by mawei on Tue 19th Feb 2008 21:17 in reply to "RE: XEN"
mawei Member since:
2005-08-02

I was pretty excited about virtualization too but now all I want in FreeBSD is very strong jails features like Solaris has with zones.


What are the advantages of zones compared to jails?

Edited 2008-02-19 21:23 UTC

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RE[3]: XEN
by vermaden on Wed 20th Feb 2008 11:02 in reply to "RE[2]: XEN"
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2006-11-18

What are the advantages of zones compared to jails?


Zones allow more options of resource management, for example you can say that this Zone will yse this and this CPU, ou, and maybe I will also that one later, and that amount of RAM, while Jails does not offer such management/flexibility.

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RE[2]: XEN
by vermaden on Wed 20th Feb 2008 11:00 in reply to "RE: XEN"
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2006-11-18

"I was pretty excited about virtualization too but now all I want in FreeBSD is very strong jails features like Solaris has with zones."


But I will not start Windows nor Solaris in Jail :/

"that Sun is developing their own technology"


If you talk about xVM, then it is Xen, it has only other name, Sun also bought Innotek lately, and VirtialBox packages are avialable for OpenSolaris.

What FreeBSD has to offer here?
A deadly slow QEMU, even with kqemu, sure there were some works to port Linux KVM, but it is nonusable right now, and it wont be in nearest feture.

Jails are good if you want to start a Jailed FreeBSD, but what for other oses?

"that Microsoft is developing their own technology"


I have read about it a little, it is a parody of virtualiation comparing to Xen or VirtualBox.

"that Xen is now owned by Citrix"


Xen is on GPL license, so it does not matter who will own the name, it will still be free.

"I really scratch my head and wonder how am I going to support all these technologies and how exactly are all these native virtualization technologies going to work with each other."


Why use all of them at the same time?

You only need one, two at most at the same time, for example Jail/Zones for OS-level virtualization and VirtualBox/Xen for full virtualization.

FreeBSD is a great, simple and powerfull OS, but if it goes to virtualization, its years behind others, and the sad part is that they (mostly) do nothing to change that.

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RE[3]: XEN
by Oliver on Wed 20th Feb 2008 14:04 in reply to "RE[2]: XEN"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

Virtualization _is_ hype, it's to some degree useful to play with it, but on servers? Jesus, there are other ways of burning your precious resources.

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