Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Feb 2008 13:24 UTC, submitted by wakeupneo
Multimedia, AV Toshiba said Tuesday it will no longer manufacture HD-DVDs, effectively ending the long-running battle with the rival Blu-ray for a dominant high-definition format. Toshiba said it made the decision to cease developing, manufacturing, and marketing HD-DVDs after 'recent major changes in the market'. It promised to continue offering support and service for all 1.3+ million Toshiba HD-DVDs sold so far.
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Not upgrading for a long time
by Yamin on Tue 19th Feb 2008 17:15 UTC
Yamin
Member since:
2006-01-10

Call me old. Call me blind. Call me tone deaf.

But I just don't see/hear the benefit of HD. DVD quality is more than enough for me. Heck regular cable on my LCD is plentiful for me. Everything is clear. Faces are not blurry...

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Luposian Member since:
2005-07-27

Call me old. Call me blind. Call me tone deaf.

But I just don't see/hear the benefit of HD. DVD quality is more than enough for me. Heck regular cable on my LCD is plentiful for me. Everything is clear. Faces are not blurry...


The only time video on an LCD will look blurry is when it's not displayed at the LCD's *native* resolution. The blurriness is antialiasing, to soften the jaggies from the LCD trying to make tiny pixels (native resolution) look like larger ones (lower than native resolution).

You wouldn't have this problem at all (blurriness) on a standard CRT TV set, because there are no set size pixels.

It's funny how many people just don't understand how LCD's work and why "HD" is really nothing more than higher resolution, not necessarily better picture clarity or data compression or whatever.

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Redeeman Member since:
2006-03-23

Except that pretty much _ALL_ hd material have alot more details than DVD resolution.....

resolution isnt a "just", it f--king matters alot, and believe me, 720x576 is pretty much shitty compared to 1920x1080

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

HD as a video medium is more meant for big screen TVs. I lucked into a big screen for home and once the initial romance ended, the first thing I noticed was that my humble old PS2 image displays poorly. The old PS2 is meant for a smaller screen and pixel depth so stretching the image up to a bagillion pixels causes image fuzzing.

(it was neat finding the exact distance from the screen to sit along with how fast image quality degrades by moving forward or backward in the room)

I don't realy see much of a difference either. HD on a super depth TV is about the same as DVD/Cable on what used to be a standard size/depth screen.

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CowMan Member since:
2006-09-26

This is going to be a lingering problem.

I venture that you would have a hard time watching SD or 480/480-upconverted content after watching a bit of HD on a proper setup, it is not comparable.

For HD though you need the whole shebang: 7.1 audio, HD sources (most cable & sat. is highly disappointing, many Blu-Ray titles are still 5.1), an HD set, and all the cabling (pretty much HDMI) to make it all work. This has to be put in a room big enough for 7.1 > 5.1, and sitting appropriately near the TV (or having it big enough) to see the higher quality.

Then it all has to be setup and configured correctly.

This takes a fair amount of effort to balance out, and a fair amount of cost to attain, and a bit of know-how to throw together. Disc format decided, this is HD's new hurdle.

When people make the claim they can't tell the difference, I like to invite them down to my "theater room" for a demo, the kind you can't get in a noisy showroom: flicking back between upconverted DVD (which looks great) and Blu-Ray (which looks amazing).

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Hear hear!

I've only recently bought a DVD video recorder in the last couple of months because finally they've come down to a respectable price (below NZ$200), I then decided to purchase it. I have a whole heap of DVD media, all old programmes like 'Yes Minister' where by HD will add nothing given what the original format was recorded in. Heck, I'm still using a old CRT TV I bought 4 years ago!

The whole idea of HD is nothing more than a delusion concocted up after DVD prices fell, and thus, companies now want a new format with higher margins to they can extract more cash through the unholy alliances of music, movies and OEM.

Whether there is a big improvement? its all psychological; its like when people spend huge sums on something, and they see things that aren't really there. Its like the $7000 speaker cables; after wasting huge sums on such a conjob, they're pre-conditioned to assuming that it *must* be better, and thus, when they use it, they expect, and thus, becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

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