Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Feb 2008 13:42 UTC, submitted by Karl
Linux Already at their second beta release [German], Zebuntu is an Xfce-based Ubuntu distribution with heavy - you guessed it - Zeta influences. Bernd Korz explains the goals of Zebuntu in the project's announcement [German]: "Our goal is to use BlueEyedOS to offer a new platform for our former Zeta customers. In the future, Zeta, BeOS, as well as any future Haiku applications, will run natively on Zebuntu. This also offers a distinct advantage for developers for these platforms; they can use Zebuntu to develop for their platforms while utilising the performance and versatility of Linux." In other words, run BeOS applications on Linux. They have not forgotten about BFS support either. The project is, of course, completely open source. The website is only available in German for now, but Zebuntu developer Leszek Lesner confirmed to me that work is being done on an English variant (there already is an English development blog). Download the second beta from their download page, and, of course, see some screenshots.
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Naysayer
by Tanner on Wed 20th Feb 2008 21:47 UTC
Tanner
Member since:
2005-07-06

As you can see:
"naysayers" (I've learnt a new english term today) have, on this topic, much more motivations and longer argumentations than other "oh yay, nice work, really impressive, this is good" people.

Lets face it: a monolithic kernel (Linux) with a "compatibility layer" for apps designed for Beos (known as the real multithreaded, C++ written, ultra lightweight and lightning fast OS). This smells like shit, and is a non-sense project for the Beos followers, Haiku fans..
Expecially now that Haiku is gaining momentum (you know, "now its self-hosting", R1 is near, and so on)


P.ierluigi F.iorini: hai visto che adesso anche quel pirla di Korz ha avuto la tua malsana idea di mescolare la cultura unix con l'innovazione e la giovent├╣ di BeOS? Mi chiedo cosa avete nella zucca...
(sorry folks, i know this user.. do you remember "Mockup"?)

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RE: Naysayer
by Leszek Lesner on Wed 20th Feb 2008 22:04 in reply to "Naysayer"
Leszek Lesner Member since:
2007-04-08

We are not in competition with Haiku here.
It is a completely other technology.

One of our intentions was to create a compatibility to use BeOS Applications on Linux OS.
On the other hand, there is also a chance for all those developers who want to program for haiku but can't because of issues in booting either Haiku or BeOS.
I know that it is possibile to create Haiku software under linux right know. But it is not possibile to test this software on linux. This is one interesting aspect I think.

My intention personaly was to create an Operating System that looks and feels some kind of my beloved OS BeOS/ZETA but has better hardware support and runs well on my hardware. And I wanted to share this distribution with every one that might think it is interesting. Nothing more nothing less.

Edited 2008-02-20 22:07 UTC

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RE[2]: Naysayer
by Tanner on Wed 20th Feb 2008 22:25 in reply to "RE: Naysayer"
Tanner Member since:
2005-07-06

My intention personaly was to create an Operating System that looks and feels some kind of my beloved OS BeOS/ZETA but has better hardware support and runs well on my hardware. And I wanted to share this distribution with every one that might think it is interesting. Nothing more nothing less.


Ok, let's cooperate. ;)
Can you tell me why can't you test your software in Haiku right now? Because you cant boot Haiku yet? Wrong, you CAN boot Haiku in VMWARE, and with networking too!
I don't get the point of creating new stuff and complicated situations, when the right direction is clear and shiny like the sun...

Bear in mind that if you look at this ticket:
http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/1102
you will see that they already had an idea about running the haiku kernel on top of linux, as a separated process (aka. Virtual Kernel)
With this feature you can run BeOS applications under the Haiku kernel, which is executed under the Linux kernel.. with all the devices and drivers fully functional and supported.

As you can see, the points left to justify Zebuntu development are really a few.

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