Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Feb 2008 15:26 UTC, submitted by Robert Kratky
Opera Software Opera Software's CEO Jon S. von Tetzchner explains why they will not release the Opera browser as open source, arguing that open standards are more important than open source. Von Tetzchner also talks about the company's antitrust complaint to the European Commission in which it accuses Microsoft of abusing its dominant position by tying Internet Explorer to Windows.
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RE: hrmmm
by da_Chicken on Fri 22nd Feb 2008 01:42 UTC in reply to "hrmmm"
da_Chicken
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"open standards are more important than open source"

I can agree with that.

Then you also agree that it's a valid choice.

But I think it's a bogus choice. If you use Konqueror or Firefox, you don't have to make that choice at all because they support both open standards and open source. That's why I prefer to use Konqueror and Firefox instead of Opera.

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RE[2]: hrmmm
by pixel8r on Fri 22nd Feb 2008 02:42 in reply to "RE: hrmmm"
pixel8r Member since:
2007-08-11

i second this!!

They make it sound like if they went open source they would somehow have to break open standards...?!

I think BOTH open standards AND open source are important, and most open source projects I know also support open standards. In most cases they support open standards better than their closed-source "equivalents".

So what is the point of saying open standards are more important? Its just an excuse for not opening up their code and I dont believe its a valid one.

If they made opera open source it would still meet the same open standards it does today. So the question should be asked again, "Why wont opera go open-source AND remain open-standards compliant?". Why?

Edited 2008-02-22 02:43 UTC

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RE[3]: hrmmm
by dagw on Fri 22nd Feb 2008 09:26 in reply to "RE[2]: hrmmm"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

So what is the point of saying open standards are more important?


I think he's right. I use a few closed source apps, because they perform better than the open source equivalents and I felt they where worth the money.

However one thing I make very sure of is that all the apps follow an open standard so that I can get my important data out and replace the app with something else should it become necessary. That is why open standards are more important.

So the question should be asked again, "Why wont opera go open-source AND remain open-standards compliant?". Why?


The real question is why should they go open source. What's to gain? Don't answer this question from the perspective of an OSS advocate or end user, answer it from the perspective of an Opera senior manager or shareholder.

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RE[2]: hrmmm
by renox on Fri 22nd Feb 2008 10:28 in reply to "RE: hrmmm"
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2005-07-06

>>"open standards are more important than open source"
>I can agree with that.
>Then you also agree that it's a valid choice.
>But I think it's a bogus choice.

True, it's not a choice but what Opera's CEO was saying is that their browser is standard compliant which is more important than being opensource or not, and I agree with that.

As for FF vs Opera: I prefer Opera as it's more responsive.

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RE[3]: hrmmm
by da_Chicken on Fri 22nd Feb 2008 18:25 in reply to "RE[2]: hrmmm"
da_Chicken Member since:
2006-01-01

But this Tetzchner guy is clearly talking about open source vs. open standards as a choice that is worth considering.

Quote from the article:
"If you have a choice between open standards and open source, our choice would always be open standards."

He could have just said that Opera doesn't care for open source instead of setting up bogus choices. That would have been more honest, but it's not good PR.

I think his most sincere comment comes in the end of the same answer:
"and there would be the risk that people would look at our code and run away with it."

That seems to be the real reason why Opera isn't open source, and it has nothing to do with advocating open standards.

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