Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Feb 2008 22:09 UTC
Internet Explorer Microsoft has sent an e-mail to a select number of its previous beta testers regarding the upcoming release of IE8 beta 1. "We are nearing the launch of Windows Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 and we will be making it available for the general public to download and test. IE8 Beta 1 is focused on the developer community, with the goal of gaining valuable feedback to improve Internet Explorer 8 during the development process."
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Browser wars
by SlackerJack on Mon 25th Feb 2008 23:03 UTC
SlackerJack
Member since:
2005-11-12

It's not over by a long shot, how does Microsoft try to put a holt to Firefox's momentum, Opera trying to sue them.

It seems Microsoft has decided to do something and change their stance and try the compatibility/standards way but does that mean a softer hand, harder kick while your not looking?

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RE: Browser wars
by google_ninja on Mon 25th Feb 2008 23:58 in reply to "Browser wars"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

The browser wars are really just getting geared up again.
It actually really seemed like IE wasn't even going to be in the running this time around (IE7 can be summed up as "It sucks less"), but from all reports, IE8 is going to be very fast, very secure, and very standards compliant. Webkit is lightning fast, very standards compliant, and with some big js improvements coming down the pipe is turning into a very compelling choice. FF3 isn't going to be standing still on standards and will pass acid2, finally tracking down the memory and stability issues, and offering native UIs on every platform.

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RE[2]: Browser wars
by stestagg on Tue 26th Feb 2008 13:11 in reply to "RE: Browser wars"
stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Trouble is, all the reports about IE8 have been coming directly from Microsoft at this time. As noone else has had a chance to try it.

Just like all the glowing reports about standards compliance that were released about IE7, before it was GA.

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RE: Browser wars
by sakeniwefu on Tue 26th Feb 2008 05:09 in reply to "Browser wars"
sakeniwefu Member since:
2008-02-26

It will all depend on their bets.
I believe that going Vista-only would give Firefox a chance to stand up again(FF4) after the blow that IE8 will be to the Windows version if the latter really is faster and more standards-compliant than FF3.

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RE[2]: Browser wars
by ba1l on Tue 26th Feb 2008 07:43 in reply to "RE: Browser wars"
ba1l Member since:
2007-09-08

You think Firefox should artificially limit it's own user base? What good could that possibly do?

There is virtually nothing available in Vista that isn't either available in Windows XP as well, or available as a portable library that can be used across all platforms supported by Firefox, including Mac OS X and Linux. The Firefox team have already shown that they can support three separate platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X), so what's wrong with adding a fourth (Windows Vista)?

Even Microsoft aren't dropping XP support yet. Which is a relief - the sooner web developers can ignore IE 6 and IE 7 the better, and tying IE 8 adoption to Vista adoption would have crippled it.

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RE[2]: Browser wars
by google_ninja on Tue 26th Feb 2008 14:03 in reply to "RE: Browser wars"
google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

Web developers care about standards compliance, it has been shown that noone else really does.

What is important is that using IE6, especially pre XP SP2 was downright dangerous to peoples computers, and the word really got around. People were more then willing to put up with the performance issues of firefox if it meant that surfing the web didn't infest their machines with spyware. If MS makes a big enough splash with IE8, FF may start losing some of its windows base.

Honestly, if this boils down to technical superiority, my bets are on webkit. They need a better javascript engine, but when that comes their speed will beat IE (and totally pants FF), and their codebase is far cleaner then anything else out there.

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