Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Feb 2008 22:09 UTC
Internet Explorer Microsoft has sent an e-mail to a select number of its previous beta testers regarding the upcoming release of IE8 beta 1. "We are nearing the launch of Windows Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 and we will be making it available for the general public to download and test. IE8 Beta 1 is focused on the developer community, with the goal of gaining valuable feedback to improve Internet Explorer 8 during the development process."
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RE[2]: Browser wars
by ba1l on Tue 26th Feb 2008 07:43 UTC in reply to "RE: Browser wars"
ba1l
Member since:
2007-09-08

You think Firefox should artificially limit it's own user base? What good could that possibly do?

There is virtually nothing available in Vista that isn't either available in Windows XP as well, or available as a portable library that can be used across all platforms supported by Firefox, including Mac OS X and Linux. The Firefox team have already shown that they can support three separate platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac OS X), so what's wrong with adding a fourth (Windows Vista)?

Even Microsoft aren't dropping XP support yet. Which is a relief - the sooner web developers can ignore IE 6 and IE 7 the better, and tying IE 8 adoption to Vista adoption would have crippled it.

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RE[3]: Browser wars
by sakeniwefu on Tue 26th Feb 2008 08:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Browser wars"
sakeniwefu Member since:
2008-02-26

WTF(riend)?
What I am suggesting is that FF3 will have problems to contest IE8 in the Windows platform if IE8 is the second-coming everyone's suggesting and FF3 keeps being just good.
If Microsoft does as usual and keeps IE8 to Vista users as a way to push Vista adoption, FF4 will have a chance of optimizing for speed and be back into competition in the Windows arena before XP gets phased out.
In Linux, and free-OSes in general, FF has a virtual monopoly, and there's no chance of Windows-only IE8 ever contesting it.
Of course this all assumes that the information about fastest and more compliant than ever IE8 is true.

Edited 2008-02-26 08:48 UTC

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RE[4]: Browser wars
by ba1l on Tue 26th Feb 2008 09:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Browser wars"
ba1l Member since:
2007-09-08

Sorry - I obviously misunderstood what you were saying.

I really don't think anyone can say that IE 8 will be any better than Firefox 3 at this stage, based only on a couple of blog posts by the IE development team.

The performance and standards-compliance bars have been set very high by Opera, and by the latest development snapshots of both Firefox and Safari. The chances of Microsoft being able to beat everyone else on the first go are virtually zero, especially considering the head start everyone else has.

Even if IE 8 does turn out to be comparable to modern versions of Firefox, Safari, and Opera, that's good too. At least we won't all be held back by IE as much as we are today.

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RE[4]: Browser wars
by Kroc on Tue 26th Feb 2008 11:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Browser wars"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Fact sheet:
What's known about IE8 & Firefox3?

IE8: Shit all
Firefox 3: Download the beta here http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html , and the source code here http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0b3/...

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