Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Feb 2008 15:08 UTC, submitted by masalinger
Mono Project A huge 'discussion' took place on the desktop-devel mailing list of the GNOME project about a possible replacement for TomBoy, the Wiki-like note taking application-thing-program-utility written in Mono - it being written in Mono was the prime reason for the whole debate, which started here, and only got considerably nastier later on. "It would seem that lately there are a lot of FUD-spreading trolls crawling out of the woodwork trying to frighten people into thinking that GNOME somehow depends on Mono. Let's take a look at their most widely repeated claims."
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RE[6]: The whole reason
by masalinger on Wed 27th Feb 2008 14:01 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: The whole reason"
masalinger
Member since:
2008-02-22

Easy; Winforms, Indigo, WMA/WMV (which is required for Silverlight), WPF and numerous others. Basically if you took out all the patented stuff from Mono you would end up with something pretty much worthless.


Uh... other than Windows.Forms and WPF (altho WPF is not implemented afaik), none of those are part of Mono and neither of them are installed by default on Ubuntu (and I doubt on Fedora either).

Who needs Windows.Forms or WPF to write Linux-based Mono apps? No one, that's who.

Those are only ever used to help people port their apps from Windows over to Linux, where they will likely use Qt# or Gtk#.

Talk about trolls trying to spread FUD, wow...

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RE[7]: The whole reason
by kaiwai on Wed 27th Feb 2008 14:17 in reply to "RE[6]: The whole reason"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Uh... other than Windows.Forms and WPF (altho WPF is not implemented afaik), none of those are part of Mono and neither of them are installed by default on Ubuntu (and I doubt on Fedora either).

Who needs Windows.Forms or WPF to write Linux-based Mono apps? No one, that's who.

Those are only ever used to help people port their apps from Windows over to Linux, where they will likely use Qt# or Gtk#.

Talk about trolls trying to spread FUD, wow...


You know, this is starting to sound like the life of brian:

All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?


.NET is patented; I know it, the Mono developers know it (hence their focus on ensuring people don't become too reliant on Winforms etc), Novell know it, Microsoft know it, most of the people on the planet know it - except you. You're adamant that all the above is simply a figment of my imagination. Well, I guess we must be all wrong and little old you is right. Talk about an ego trip if I ever saw one.

Edited 2008-02-27 14:18 UTC

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RE[8]: The whole reason
by masalinger on Wed 27th Feb 2008 15:18 in reply to "RE[7]: The whole reason"
masalinger Member since:
2008-02-22

There's no proof that core Mono (e.g. non Windows.Forms) infringes on any patents.

There is a *possibility* that Mono infringes on patents... but there is also the *possibility* that the Linux kernel, gcc, Python, etc infringe on patents as well.

No software is 100% known to not infringe on patents, that is simply a fact in the software industry.

No piece of software that any of us uses on a daily basis is free from the threat of patents.

Does that mean none of us should be running software? I hope not...

Edited 2008-02-27 15:21 UTC

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