Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Feb 2008 18:33 UTC, submitted by JJ
Microsoft "Microsoft was fined a record 899 million euros (USD 1.35 billion) by the European Commission on Wednesday for using high prices to discourage software competition in the latest sanction in their long-running battle. The executive arm of the European Union said the U.S. software group defied a 2004 order from Brussels to provide the information on reasonable terms. Microsoft has now been fined a total of 1.68 billion euros by the EU for abusing its 95 percent dominance of PC operating systems through Windows."
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RE[4]: Thats Crazy
by IvoLimmen on Thu 28th Feb 2008 11:23 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Thats Crazy"
IvoLimmen
Member since:
2005-07-06

Samba is a perfect example of an excellent product that has succeeded in spite of no docs.

That was easy: a lot of guys working on Samba came from Microsoft and left because Microsoft wanted more compatibility with older software, the developers didn't like it and joined (or started?) Samba. So specs where not needed.

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RE[5]: Thats Crazy
by jamesb on Sun 2nd Mar 2008 01:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Thats Crazy"
jamesb Member since:
2005-12-01

I don't know which reality you live in that this occurred.

I'm sure Andrew Tridgell and Jeremy Allison appreciated the help of all these programmers when they were reverse engineering the protocol by looking at the bytes going over the wire (that was sarcasm, by the way, in case you didn't realize). Oh wait, they didn't get any help.

If you want to spout bullshit like you just did, you better be able to back it up with trustworthy links stating what you just said. Which you won't be able to.

Not to mention that Microsoft developers who did this would be sued into the ground for divulging trade secrets.

In summary, you're a f--king dumbass sack of shit, and you're talking out of your ass.

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RE[6]: Thats Crazy
by sbergman27 on Sun 2nd Mar 2008 01:55 in reply to "RE[5]: Thats Crazy"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Well, while I don't recall any former MS guys who worked on Samba... I do recall an interview with either Jeremy or Andrew some years ago in which they said that earlier on, certain factions within Microsoft had been friendly, helpful, and cooperative, and excited about the prospect of SMB running well on other OSes. Which dovetails with statements made recently by Jeremy about how it is hoped that the agreement which got them the CIFS documentation might signal a return to normalcy for Samba<->MS relations.

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