Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Feb 2008 20:01 UTC
Gnome GNOME 2.22.0 release candidate has been released. "This is the last unstable release before 2.22.0. It's been a pretty fun ride since September. New features. Bug fixes. Translations. Documentation. Lots of bug triaging too. And we're getting ready to start again for 2.23! But before, we need to make sure 2.22.0 will be rock-solid. There's still a few days before the hard code freeze, so it's not too late to fix this last bug you're ashamed of."
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RE[2]: Hardy Heron Alphas...
by miscz on Fri 29th Feb 2008 18:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Hardy Heron Alphas..."
miscz
Member since:
2005-07-17

I have never said that my opinions are more than, well, opinions. I usually do not add "IMO" or say "that's your opinion" - whose else opinion would it be?

I've tried alpha5 on 2 computers and both had been really unstable. Both run various Linux distributions well so I doubt those are hardware problems. I've been using alphas of many previous releases of Ubuntu. I start usually with 5th as they have proved to be stable enough in my experience. I usually do not submit bugs and I know I should but you're going quite far saying that I shouldn't even be using it. I do not have time to report everything, I waste enough time doing stuff like trying out weird operating systems ;) I am prepared for trouble and I'm discussing them on OSnews, what's wrong with that?

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RE[3]: Hardy Heron Alphas...
by Kokopelli on Fri 29th Feb 2008 19:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Hardy Heron Alphas..."
Kokopelli Member since:
2005-07-06

What is wrong with it is you are commenting about bad stability of something that is marked as unstable and in need of testing in the support channels. Rather than checking the support channels for a fix or working with other community members to make one you are whinging on a board where the chance of useful feedback on the problem are very low.

Further you are comparing an Alpha release to two problem child gold releases saying that you have no idea how it it will be ready on time and you doubt that it will be ready even if it came out two months late.

The point of Alpha releases is to get it into the hands of testers who can write good bug reports and provide feedback so that the final release is as stable as possible. If you can not begin to figure out what is wrong and do not have the time to debug/write a bug report in the first place then you should not be using alpha releases of the software. By installing an alpha then complaining about its stability on OSNews you are not helping in any way, you are simply generating noise at best, fud at worst.

Taking as a simple example, for close to a week around Alpha 3 I was not able to use any KDE4 apps or login to the KDE4 desktop. By searching launchpad and the forums plus a little conversation we figured out it was a bad package that had been fixed but there was still a stray file that I had to delete by hand. I wrote a bug report and searched the forums for a fix. I did not complain on OSNews (or /. or reddit or whatever) saying Hardy was hopelessly broken, I could not even log into KDE4.

This is why I say that you should not be using an alpha release. Because not only are you not helping, you are spreading doubt before the project has even released a beta, much less a rc. Competence or ability have next to nothing to do with it. Alphas are all about giving the developers the information they need to make the release stable.

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