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Member since:2006-02-05
Don't ever mention django to a rails guy unless you want a fight ;-)
django actually came first, python is a more mature language, and the interpreter is alot faster. ruby is arguably cooler, and rails has better code gen though.
If you ever get the chance, give TextMate a try. Itll really blow your socks off. As for OSX, it is just such a joy to use that if you are doing something as cross platform as web work, there isnt that much of a reason not to.
Member since:2005-07-24
I should hope that it would not go beyond disagreement over a few points. The two communities have much in common. Where there is disagreement... well, those are in matters of taste. And, as always, there's no accounting for that.
Django was not released until some time after rails. Although it did exist as an internal project at Lawrence Journal-World. Python's library availability is much more complete, which I find to be a big plus. And it is a lot faster. I prefer Python, but sometimes feel that the Python community is a little too anal about "Explicit, not implicit".
Yes, I've seen a lot of TextMate and OSX. And while I maintain respect for people who use them, I prefer to use FOSS tools, myself. Sometimes, I have to make tough decisions about going with FOSS or proprietary packages for my clients. But when it comes to my own personal use, and my own development tools, that choice is always easy. :-)
Member since:2007-05-01
Well I started myself with Ruby and was going to learn RoR, but I've been sliding into Python and Django. I'm impressed, very =P but I love all my FOSS brothers. If your mind wraps around Ruby then go for it, if your mind wraps around Python instead, then go for it. Yes python in general feels faster, it closer to Perl in speed, but on a modern machine is the speed of your interpreted code the bottle-neck? Usually it will happen in the database layer first imho.
Anything beats the handcuffs of the commercial software world imho for Web work.
Member since:2007-05-01
For your python editing, you could get the eric4 mentioned in another reply.
Or you get real nice environments with either
Komodo IDE, Wingware IDE on the commercial side.
With free Komodo Edit (edit only), or Wingware IDE 101 (for students so Auto Complete removed but still get debugger).
Its imho a he** of a lot better than a text editor. Especially when you do project management and get into refactoring code.
Member since:
2005-07-24
I have noticed a strong inclination towards MacOSX, TextMate, and very permissive licenses among the new generation of Python based web frameworks, as well. Those traits seem to come as a unit for some reason. Actually, the pattern seems to be to develop on MacOSX and deploy on Ubuntu Linux.
Anyway, while I'm posting, I'll plug my personal favorite web framework:
http://www.djangoproject.org