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Internet Explorer Microsoft has released the first beta release of Internet Explorer 8 just a few moments ago. "Download Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 and put the web at your service for you and your customers. This beta is aimed at web developers and designers to help them take advantage of new features in Internet Explorer 8 that will enhance their websites. Download the beta version of Internet Explorer 8. Internet Explorer 8 is currently available in English and will soon be available in German and Simplified Chinese. Please continue to monitor this page for updates and availability of other languages."
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xhtml 1.1
by renhoek on Wed 5th Mar 2008 23:14 UTC
renhoek
Member since:
2007-04-29

does it support xhtml 1.1 strict? that way i can finally serve properly formatted xml, and embed svg. which means i can draw lines (finally! after 20 years i can draw lines in my webpage)

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RE: xhtml 1.1
by KugelKurt on Wed 5th Mar 2008 23:36 in reply to "xhtml 1.1"
KugelKurt Member since:
2005-07-06

IE8 does, of course, not support SVG. And actually I don't think that SVG support will arrive in the foreseeable future. SVG in combination with JavaScript and other AJAX stuff can -- at least to a certain degree -- replace Flash and Silverlight. MS has no interest in supporting anything that's a threat to Silverlight.

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RE[2]: xhtml 1.1
by renhoek on Wed 5th Mar 2008 23:50 in reply to "RE: xhtml 1.1"
renhoek Member since:
2007-04-29

ie8 does, of course support SVG ;) . but it's (microsoft style) not supporting xhtml as it should. for some reason they did not make a mac version so i have trouble testing it. this can make my live a lot easier if i have to make graphs and stuff.

but it should be possible to embed svg in a cross browser and standard way (but i'm scared it "just does not work").

for some info about namespaces in xhtml/html/xml hybrid bastard pages :

http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?Project...

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RE[2]: xhtml 1.1
by irbis on Thu 6th Mar 2008 00:03 in reply to "RE: xhtml 1.1"
irbis Member since:
2005-07-08

IE8 does, of course, not support SVG.

Yet, SVG is - besides of advanced CSS etc. - one such good open web standard that MS is now supposedly more willing to support in its browsers? Or not? Just cheap empty marketing talk?

The lack of SVG support is one, maybe small, but very good example of the reasons why I don't usually like or use Microsoft software practically at all anymore. Their main business goal does not seem to be serving people or following fair play rules like open standards, but instead, only making as much money as possible and hindering competitors.

The whole OOXML vs. ODF file format debate is another example of the same, already all too well-known MS business behavior.

But maybe, just maybe, there are now some signs of MS finally learning its lessons and becoming more of a cooperative team player instead of a greedy monopolist only? At least they talk about the importance of open standards more nowadays. Let's hope that it is not just cheap talk aimed at fooling people.

However, I'm afraid it will take some time and effort from Microsoft before people will learn to trust its willingness to support and follow open standards. And if Microsoft won't learn the importance of open standards, they will just continue making enemies and losing customers, maybe slowly but gradually anyway.

Edited 2008-03-06 00:10 UTC

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RE: xhtml 1.1
by sj87 on Thu 6th Mar 2008 08:05 in reply to "xhtml 1.1"
sj87 Member since:
2007-12-16

does it support xhtml 1.1 strict? that way i can finally serve properly formatted xml, and embed svg. which means i can draw lines (finally! after 20 years i can draw lines in my webpage)

XHTML 1.1 Strict? There's only the XHTML 1.1, and no, IE8 doesn't support the application/xhtml+xml mime type.

The Microsoft Internet Explorer is not free! Not even as in Ā«gratisĀ». To be able to use MSIE natively (v7 and up), you must own a version of Microsoft Windows XP SP2 or later.


Internet Explorer is free for download and it can be freely ran on any system capable of running WINE, so cut the crap.

ACID 2 test works

Not with "my" IE8. I am not able to scroll the page neither with arrow keys nor mouse wheel. It should be allowed to do that.

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RE[2]: xhtml 1.1
by snozzberry on Thu 6th Mar 2008 15:50 in reply to "RE: xhtml 1.1"
snozzberry Member since:
2005-11-14

Internet Explorer is free for download and it can be freely ran on any system capable of running WINE, so cut the crap.


You have IE7 running in WINE successfully? Do post instructions on how you managed that, since the IEs4Linux crew have never really gotten past IE6 (they've managed to create an IE6 hybrid that uses some of IE7's rendering engine, but that's it).

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Beta

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