Linked by David Adams on Mon 10th Mar 2008 03:40 UTC, submitted by SReilly
Legal Microsoft Corp. on Friday asked that a lawsuit claiming it duped consumers in a Windows Vista marketing program be suspended while the company appeals a judge's decision to grant the case class-action status. If granted, the motion would also postpone any new disclosures of potentially embarrassing company e-mails. Last month, the release of similar documents showed that top-level company executives struggled with the new operating system on machines labeled "Vista Capable," and that partners such as Dell Inc. warned Microsoft that the campaign would confuse consumers.
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RE[6]: No reason ...
by Touvan on Mon 10th Mar 2008 16:55 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: No reason ..."
Touvan
Member since:
2006-09-01

I've read (but have not tried, since I'm a PC gamer, still) that you can connect a keyboard and mouse to the XBox 360, and they will work in most games.

I just upgraded my PC gaming rig, and it was a hard call to spend that money on a gaming rig instead of on a console, and a less powerful computer to run my normal PC apps, and the console to run my games.

In the end, the freedom of the PC (to run games, mods, demos, etc.) that won the argument, as I don't mind the console controller for most games. Not FPS though, can't play those on consoles, except those that are designed for it - Metroid - that would have been easier with a mouse and keyboard though, even over the Wii-Mote (minus the cool motion sensor stuff, that was fun). Zelda would have been better with a GC controller, to be quite honest.

BTW, Ubuntu and Linux in general need to get better at supporting the newest hardware - I'm stuck on Vista because my PC's hardware isn't working quite as well under the Alpha version of Ubuntu 8 (the current stable build runs worse). I get no boot screen, and sometimes it stalls in an odd way during boot up, and it runs hotter (the fans spin up more often under Ubuntu than Vista).

Still Ubuntu makes my computer feel new, while Vista is actually slower feeling than XP was on 4 year old hardware - and I have 4 GB of DDR 800 RAM, which should be plenty.

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RE[7]: No reason ... - hardware issues
by jabbotts on Mon 10th Mar 2008 18:47 in reply to "RE[6]: No reason ..."
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Contact your hardware vendor and ask why they have chosen not to support Linux based OS since you are obviously willing to pay and they seem to be ignoring the market. If it's because there chips include some patented material they ask why they don't provide a generic driver interface that would protect the patented material.

The kernel developers and by proxy, cononical, would be more than happy to include support for more hardware but they are limited by the manufacturers. The bias towards Windows only hardware and the idea that FOSS users will not pay for good products is slowly erroding.

You may also try a few different distributions to see if another includes better hardware support for your needs. PCLinuxOS is good I hear and Mandriva treats me well. Both are very user friendly if your not a command prompt lover.

In future, consider checking ubuntu or your prefered distributions list of supported hardware. I recommend then, sending a letter to your prefered hardware manufacturer explaining that you chose there competitor's product and explaining that it was due to there choice to not support your software platform. The customer is always right, usually.

I'm going through the same thing with my current system build. Most of the parts are chosen but video cards will be the last part baught so I can see if ATI or nVidia have learned to play nice by then. (Damn is the 8800 ever a strong argument too move away from ATI)

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RE[7]: No reason ...
by ssa2204 on Mon 10th Mar 2008 20:58 in reply to "RE[6]: No reason ..."
ssa2204 Member since:
2006-04-22

In the end, the freedom of the PC (to run games, mods, demos, etc.) that won the argument, as I don't mind the console controller for most games. Not FPS though, can't play those on consoles, except those that are designed for it


I think this is the case for most hardcore gamers, consoles to this day are still so limiting for game life. Take Call of Duty 4 for example. Most people that have bought the console version will probably not be playing it in 1-2 years time. The PC version on the other hand will have years of life so long as the mod community keeps it alive. Case in point is that Call of Duty UO is still an active game after all these years. Maps are still being made, mods are still around, etc.

BTW, Ubuntu and Linux in general need to get better at supporting the newest hardware - I'm stuck on Vista because my PC's hardware isn't working quite as well under the Alpha version of Ubuntu 8 (the current stable build runs worse). I get no boot screen, and sometimes it stalls in an odd way during boot up, and it runs hotter (the fans spin up more often under Ubuntu than Vista).


This is the primary reason I do not like running Linux on my laptop, the performance/heat issue. To date I have yet to find an effective tool that can adjust the power/performance. With Windows, specifically Vista I can adjust this so that some high CPU tasking programs will not boil the computer. Not too mention the fact that more than often wireless will simply not work, or it will require a unacceptable amount of time to get working. Last Ubuntu I tried I became simply aggravated after spending too much time getting the wireless to work, only to find it would not stay connected to an AP using any encryption after 1-2 minutes. Maybe this is acceptable to geeks who enjoy playing around, but for most people who have better things to do with their life this is not the solution.

Still Ubuntu makes my computer feel new, while Vista is actually slower feeling than XP was on 4 year old hardware - and I have 4 GB of DDR 800 RAM, which should be plenty.

I think it is becoming more and more likely that Vista is the new Me. I have a suspicion that Windows 7 will not be as radical a change. I think it will include GUI changes, a few new features, but for the most part will be underneath Vista with everything working the way it should be. Performance wise I do not see Vista as that much of a hog. My issue is the OS at times just seems to hang or require an inordinate amount of time to do what would usually be a simple task. Almost as if the OS has to decided first whether to do this action or not. Once it does get going it will be fast. Examples would be opening some programs, going to a network share, deleting a range of files, etc..

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