Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Mar 2008 17:52 UTC, submitted by irbis
KDE Ars takes a look at KDE 4.0.2. "When KDE 4.0 was officially released in January, there were a lot of gaping holes in basic functionality. During the past few months, the codebase has matured considerably, and the environment is steadily approaching the point where it will be sufficiently robust for widespread day-to-day use. Although there are still many features missing, version 4.0.2 - which was released last week - offers an improved user experience. We tested KDE 4.0.2 with the recently released Kubuntu 8.04 alpha 6." In addition, there is a new 'visual changelog' for KDE 4.1.
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RE: Desktop toolbox
by toothie on Tue 11th Mar 2008 01:53 UTC in reply to "Desktop toolbox"
toothie
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2008-03-11

all anyone can focus on is the tool box, or resizing panels. take a look at superkaramba for proof of concept, and all the user submitted karamba widgets on kde-look.org...

plasma, like superkaramba, provides the user community to create/customize user interface componets to almost unimaginable possibilities. and do it in several programing languages, giving access to a wide audience.

once the api and bindings stabalize, then containments and plasma widgets stop popping up you'll suddenly have options upon options. including a desktop containment without a toolbox. i'm content to have the toolbox if only it helps to advance or stabalize the api, or has a greater future purpose.

some people thing aaron and kde are creating a desktop and make people use it the way they think people should use it. actually they are giving the user community the ablity almost any desktop they want.

by the time 4.1 comes out, users will likely have 4 very different menus to choose from... and thats just the begining... the greatest innovation of plasma is the real innovation is likely to come from the user community. what are your favorite superkaramba widgets? and did all of them come from kde developers?

imo kde4 has huge potential. ignore all the other frameworks, or plasma customizable potential... lets just focus on making the panel smaller and the dippy toolbox...

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RE[2]: Desktop toolbox
by J.R. on Tue 11th Mar 2008 08:43 in reply to "RE: Desktop toolbox"
J.R. Member since:
2007-07-25

all anyone can focus on is the tool box, or resizing panels. take a look at superkaramba for proof of concept, and all the user submitted karamba widgets on kde-look.org...


Do you really think that many of the people, me included, that complains about the desktop toolbox because its "in the way" is going to cram their desktop full of widgets?

To be honest I think the focus is kinda wrong when flashy features are the priority while the loyal KDE users that have been there from KDE1 gets the shaft. It all depends on which usergroup you want ofcourse, but don't forget that a DE with flashy features got more competition...from OSX and even Windows Vista. Can KDE4 really win those users over?

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RE[3]: Desktop toolbox
by Morty on Tue 11th Mar 2008 22:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Desktop toolbox"
Morty Member since:
2005-07-06


Do you really think that many of the people, me included, that complains about the desktop toolbox because its "in the way" is going to cram their desktop full of widgets?


And those complaints are even more baseless than the complaints of the toolbox distort/distract the wallpaper. Something that actually have merrit, altough minimal, as the toolbox is painted on top of the wallpaper changing some pixels.

For small screens the toolbox does not steal any of the precious screen realestate, simply because on such screens one will always strive to maximise the work area of the application. Either by using singel maximized application or by make the application cover as much of the free space as possible. In both cases the windows will/can be placed on top of the toolbox, and under the application it can not possible be "in the way".

The only time the toolbox will be visible are when you decide not to cover it with an application, have all windows minimized or have no application windows open. In the later two cases it`s impossible for it to be "in the way", as no work is done and nothing to be in the way of. And the first one, it`s by choice of the user and you can`t blame the developers for that.

Edited 2008-03-11 22:16 UTC

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